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  1. #11
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    Brightshadow's Avatar
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    Lumen Stargazer
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    Evangela

    Summoner is summoner...

    Evoker? no, thanks
    The main point is we want the same thing a summoner, the name doesn't really matter the only reason why I called it evoker is because it makes more sense with the current naming scheme, plus im very open to change so I wouldn't mind if SE created brand new summons like in FFXII, maybe a new summon for each of the 12th, and the beast tribe ones can be the chaos ones or something like that. In addition if SE decides to add a advance job type of system or tree system like many have proposed non of the classes fit the summoning type of theme, so maybe evoker can be the base class, and the adv class or trees can be summoner? and necromancer?

    Malakhim

    I didn't read the entirety of the post, and I think that if the devs plan to introduce a type of summoner class(and they probably will) that they'll come up with their own plan for it.

    However thank god somebody is sticking with calling it Evoker.
    I know that the dev will make there own version of summoner the only thing im offering is a quest idea, summons, and how to make it work without those huge summons. For instance Leviathan is huge so how can you summon that. Maybe as said before making two different new primals like the chaos primals can be the beast tribes ones, then the divine primals can be from the 12th gods of eorzea and be weaker, and smaller than the current ones.

    I like the idea.
    Evangela, summoner is SOOOOOooooOOOO XI.. plus evoker sounds cool.

    I would change though making them a little bit weaker but costing no mp to be out.
    AND NO CROSS CLASS SUMMONING ERRrrrrr EvOKING
    The reason why I made them cost mp to keep out is because you are basically keeping a powerful being out, how can he just be with you forever lol. In addition the cross classing is how the current mechanic of the game work of course any changes to the armory system will also influence evokers if added.

    For anyone not in the know, Evoker was the first class in the series that could summon creatures, and it debuted in Final Fantasy III. The upgraded class is Summoner.
    ya your right lol, the only difference was you had no control over the summons, I always wondered why they added two summoners with the same summons in the same game lol.

    Coincidentally, conjury is just another name for summoning magic. If they are planning to add summons, it would make sense that it would be a subset of Conjurer.
    Conjurers already have White mage, and Black mage I think they should actually separate magics to make each class unique, and not only that the armory system is supposed to teach you a type of magic influenced by the weapon.
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  2. #12
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    Zantetsuken's Avatar
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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Well thought out, but I would not like to see FFXIV approach the Summoner/Evoker Class as another 'Pet' job.

    The approach in FFXI diminished the uniqueness of the Avatars and essentially turned the SMN job into a variation on the BST job.

    I would rather that summons acted like they did prior to FFX. But with added flair to the casting side of it.

    See here

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...2973#post62973
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  3. #13
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    Side Beheln
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    Evoker is like the original name of the summoner in the FF series i believe .. lol so it sounds better and makes more since with the story the guys got going.

    Nice work on the post, maybe it'll work out similar.
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  4. #14
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    Malakhim's Avatar
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    Eisen Marduk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Well thought out, but I would not like to see FFXIV approach the Summoner/Evoker Class as another 'Pet' job.

    The approach in FFXI diminished the uniqueness of the Avatars and essentially turned the SMN job into a variation on the BST job.

    I would rather that summons acted like they did prior to FFX. But with added flair to the casting side of it.

    See here

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...2973#post62973
    I agree with this sentiment. It's like eidolons were reduced to little pets, like a Shih Tsu or something.

    I'd personally like to see them act more like traditional summon spells pre-FFX. I'd also like to see some of the other summons of the series like Quetzacoatl, Siren, or Syldra, or maybe introduce some new ones to the mix.

    Interestingly enough, were the dev teams to go the route of adding class "specializations or titles", I think it'd be cool of them to introduce names from Final Fantasy III for said specializations, E.I., a conjurer could specialize in Devout(upgraded FFIII WHM), Magus(upgraded FFIII BLM) or Sage(upgraded FFIII RDM).

    ...Maybe I should post that in the actual thread...
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