CG Midlander

[Ramesses]

*(Tries not to grin)*

You know Noloe? That image of the Elezen Dragoon is actually my very own screenshot... taken right after I completed the AF quests in-game. I put that on my blog about 15 months ago. In fact, the file name is still the same.

Secondly, (again because I actually posted the image up on my blog), several people have speculated that the Dragoon is in fact an Elezen... even on your image, look at the ears on the Dragoon VERY closely... pointy innit? Perhaps a better enlarged picture of my one from my blog can be found HERE

And yes, Ferne did mention an excellent legendary explanation for a LOT of the lore regarding the "Warriors of Light"...(BTW, its on page 23 of this thread)... we know he explained this already. Which is why if you read my post above, I specifically said "like I said then, I'm still seriously wondering where the Elezen male is..."

Several of us (like then and again now) were simply speculating on where he might be... and how awesome it would be to help the group in a quest to find him.

[NoloeTazier]

The male elezen was reported as leaving the group we see in End of an Era / A New Beginning, though no reason was given. Perhaps he'll show back up someday.

As for Ala Mhigo's political troubles, it's hard to say. The final fall of Ala Mhigo was surely due to Legatus Baelsar's manipulations, but did he create the entire conflict or simply add fuel to an already existing fire? The destruction of the Monks and tyrannical behavior by Theodoric took place around 1552, five years before they actually took the city. Did Gaius capitalize on an already bad situation, or was the Emperor totally fine with sitting around for five years after declaring it open season on Aldenard just to fell the first city? This remains unanswered, as far as I know.

I remember the speculation with the Male and Female Elezen and being the Black Mage, I just didn't remember Ferne saying he might show up again. And I'd say the loss of the Monks was a direct impact on the loss of the entire city. But who can say even if Ala Mhigo had their entire Monk force if they could have stopped the Garleans and their Magitek. It was probably well known that Ala Mhigo was the strongest military city-state and how strong their Monks were. Gaius van Baelsar may not have instigated things with King Theoderic, but was definitely able to capitalize on it easily enough..unrest would be easy to spark after such bloodshed.

*(Tries not to grin)*

You know Noloe? That image of the Elezen Dragoon is actually my very own screenshot... taken right after I completed the AF quests in-game. I put that on my blog about 15 months ago. In fact, the file name is still the same.

Secondly, (again because I actually posted the image up on my blog), several people have speculated that the Dragoon is in fact an Elezen... even on your image, look at the ears on the Dragoon VERY closely... pointy innit? Perhaps a better enlarged picture of my one from my blog can be found HERE

And yes, Ferne did mention an excellent legendary explanation for a LOT of the lore regarding the "Warriors of Light"...(BTW, its on page 23 of this thread)... we know he explained this already. Which is why if you read my post above, I specifically said "like I said then, I'm still seriously wondering where the Elezen male is..."

Several of us (like then and again now) were simply speculating on where he might be... and how awesome it would be to help the group in a quest to find him.

Elezen Dragoon like Lalafell Dragoons have 2 protrusions from their helmet. The 'silver' spikes in your picture (which lol it was just one of the first to appear on google) and the regular spikes like on the concept art.

Might be hard to see but there's 2 points, silver for the ears and the regular points on the helm

Here's a close up of Estinein, an Elezen Dragoon and both points are seen.

So if you look at the concept art..there's only 1 spike.

As for the other image you posted, the 'silver' part doesn't stick out like the ears would, but it's similar to the Miqo'te's style of the helmet. The silver being there but not prominently sticking out. More so styled closer to the helm.

Edit: Not saying it's a Miqo'te. The art does lack a Male Miqo and female Roegadyn though. I assume the Black Mage is the female Elezen though, looking carefully you can see ear protrusions.

[HiirNoivl]

So, that's why I'm thinking Paragon and Ascian are related or even the same.

*rolls in all the lore* Wheee-heehee! \o.O/

Woohoo! I called it!

*Rolls in Moar Lore*

[Anonymoose]

Woohoo! I called it!

In the first days of dawn, old enemies become new and two were never two.
The highest among beasts and the hoarders of horns would dim the six to silence the one.

Found Among the Incoherent Writings of Nostradamoose

Indeed! I forgot you'd called it so soon, but I figured a big mess of things out (and realized I didn't know a few things I thought I did, as well) while working on a very intense project that's coming soon. I was planning on writing a "This is Your Enemy" article about Ascians as they're mentioned so seldomly, but between the Beta and the new trailer, Team Yoshi-P is going all out "This is Your Enemy."

This is what Gaius meant when he said, "[Eorzea] must be saved." Everything in on the Ascians. The Empire feels that if the world is going to be saved at all, they're not going to be able to waste time being diplomatic with people too stupid to understand what's going on. You can choose - submit to Imperial rule or lose the war. Either way you're not stopping them from taking this threat head on. The only thing that remains to be seen is whether the Garleans made the "Primals are here incidentally as part of a larger ascian plan" leap.

We'll see if Beta also eliminates my need to write the Archons article.

[Fleurette]

Something else that was mentioned in the Ul'dah storyline that reminded me of you guys was some stuff on Lolorito...I'm not sure if it was Moose or Hiir that pointed this out in this thread and the Ul'dah story thread, but as we expected, Lolorito has some dirty tricks up his sleeve. He sends his goons after anyone who aspires to be in the Syndicate and during the second main story quest, is very close to becoming your enemy...He really wants to overthrow the Sultanate. Also they mentioned him in the THM quest i think; he's been donating a lot of gil to the Ossuary, so...I'm starting to see a connection here with the 1.0 Ul'dah story, and I definitely don't doubt the possibility of Lolorito being the one who killed Nielle in 1.0 anymore.

also nice call, hiir!

[Anonymoose]

The syndicate (six richest people in Ul'dah) can usually be thought of as a two-party system. You've got your royalists, who believe that their power and wealth are a means to do right by the Sultanate, and you've got your monetarists, who believe that power and wealth are the goal at any other cost.

Currently, Raubahn is the only remaining royalist in the syndicate. That should give you an idea how bad things are going with that right now, lol.

When the Empire invaded Eorzea, the Monetarists, who had dealings in Garlemald already, simply bribed their way out of the embargo, the rest of Eorzea (including the Immortal Flames) be damned. It wasn't until they realized that Garlemald would see them all dead, anyway, that they came around and invested in the Grand Companies (and even then, finances went only in the Flames).

I'm still waiting to see if the old stories are wrapped up in ARR or if Ferne's just going to lay down the Truth and we'll move on with our lives, but right now I'm thinking the assassin was Warburton.

[NoloeTazier]

Something else that was mentioned in the Ul'dah storyline that reminded me of you guys was some stuff on Lolorito...I'm not sure if it was Moose or Hiir that pointed this out in this thread and the Ul'dah story thread, but as we expected, Lolorito has some dirty tricks up his sleeve. He sends his goons after anyone who aspires to be in the Syndicate and during the second main story quest, is very close to becoming your enemy...He really wants to overthrow the Sultanate. Also they mentioned him in the THM quest i think; he's been donating a lot of gil to the Ossuary, so...I'm starting to see a connection here with the 1.0 Ul'dah story, and I definitely don't doubt the possibility of Lolorito being the one who killed Nielle in 1.0 anymore.

also nice call, hiir!

That was me actually lol.

My 2 points were: either Lord Lolorito hired an assassin after the "thief" who stole the Heartstrike or Warburton had a Revenge-Will that the Thaumaturge honored upon his death, since it was an "unnatural" death. If Warburton had any wealth it went to the Thaumaturge and his Revenge-Will was then executed on the man who caused his death, Niellefresne.

I can see where Warburton would be the one to kill Nielle, after all if Lord Lolorito had sent an assassin after Nielle he clearly would have had instructions to recover the Heartstrike (or at least the jewel on the pommel). But Nielle dropped the dagger and the jewel was shattered. But as a real criminal would think, if the Heartstrike was then taken from the crime...and somehow appeared back in Lolorito's care, everyone would know that he probably had something to do with it.

As for what Nielle saw in the sarcophagus, I'm inclined now to just toss out a bomb and say he's shocked both because Warburton is not inside and the body of Corguevais is staring up at him. That's my own speculation and probably has 0 merit, besides the fact Warburton's body is probably 99% not the body inside the sarcophagus.

Also as Moose says, Raubahn is probably all that stands between the Sultana and the Syndicate now...a nice juicy tidbit is here brother the prince is a member of the Syndicate and owner of the Platinum Mirage.

Enemies enemies everywhere. Ul'dah has the Syndicate, Limsa has pirates, and Gridania is all peaceful in the woods.. =[

[HiirNoivl]

Has this been discussed here yet?
What you guys think about this verse?
When it talks about Primal Desires i understand it talking about the most basic feelings which that would be hate and love? but that two swords will lay them down..both of them not just evil has me confused..
the two swords are different and man will have to choose which one will decide their fate

The first line of the prophecy was spoken by Urianger when you arrive at the headquarters of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. I would take it to indicate that the arrival of the adventurers blessed by the Crystal at Vesper bay, both new and Legacy, is the beginning of the dawn that they speak of.

Immediately after that, you have an encounter with a primal.

As a blade born of the crystals light you felled it, only to be watched by a sword of might from the Empire.

All that's left is the last line...

Do I have this figured out already? D=

There's a preview translation for the ConnectOn! Interview in the JP to English thread.... Urianger was a temporary NPC and is taking a break...? Maybe he'll be back later.

More interesting tidbit was that Legacy PCs will be treated slightly differently than new players when it comes to NPC dialogue. So Loremongers need to be sure to make a new character in ARR. To get both sides of the story. To survivors of the SUE, PCs who transferred from 1.0 story line are called "Hollow Beings". Of course, this is a translation and the localization team may call us something else in English.

I wonder why they would give us a name with such a negative connotation?

It appears that the Mystery of Urianger is gone sorta and he's back. I haven't heard the exact reference to Hollow Beings. The legacy players are described by Baderon as people who's name is on the tips of people's tongues but they can't quite remember them. "Like a bird against the sun" they can only see them vaguely in their minds. They're "hollow presences" it seems, is in people's memories.

[Anonymoose]

Do I have this figured out already? D=

Nope.

Hint (only if you want it)

But all is not yet lost. Sensing the gravity of the situation, our master—the allseer—has arrived to begin his search for Daybreak—one of the blades mentioned in the Divine Chronicles.

An Officer and a Wise Man (FFXIV: V1)

[Catapult]

Nope.

Hint (only if you want it)

OMG HE'S LET THE ELK OUT OF THE BAG!!!!1

The truth is usually right under your nose.