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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    Okay, let me do a quick pass over your questions while I take a breather from all this Beta madness...
    Ascilia is Minfilia? Rightrightrightrightrightrightrightrightright?

    Maybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybe...alright, you got me.
    Yes, Minfilia is Ascilia. There, I shall allow you some time to properly gather those pieces of your mind that were splattered across your monitor.


    Now it's back to work!
    What the wark?! Hold your chocobos Ferne! Is Minfilia from the future? I mean, we meet Ascilia in the present day for the UD story. How can they both exist at the same time? Do both versions (young and old) exist at the same time the game took place?. Ascilia could go to the Path HQ and see her older self? What the wark?

    Oh man, my head hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    What the wark?! Hold your chocobos Ferne! Is Minfilia from the future? I mean, we meet Ascilia in the present day for the UD story. How can they both exist at the same time? Do both versions (young and old) exist at the same time the game took place?. Ascilia could go to the Path HQ and see her older self? What the wark?

    Oh man, my head hurts.
    Thinks you need to go back to page one of this thread, start reading, and have your mind blown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    What the wark?! Hold your chocobos Ferne! Is Minfilia from the future? I mean, we meet Ascilia in the present day for the UD story. How can they both exist at the same time? Do both versions (young and old) exist at the same time the game took place?. Ascilia could go to the Path HQ and see her older self? What the wark?

    Oh man, my head hurts.
    This is an incorrect assumption, is all. A very, very big chunk of the main storyline takes place in echoes - even before you know what the echo is! Before you gain control of the ability to "use the power of the echo" through the user interface, you're blindly and out-of-control jumping into and out of echoes all the time - it's not until a passerby understands what's happening to you that you're brought to the Path of the Twelve in the first place.

    The very first echo you enter is in the very first quest you undertake regardless of city, when you see the starshower. After that, any time you hear a whoosh sound effect in the cutscenes, that's an echo beginning or ending.

    Each city also seems to have some characters who've changed their identities since then - such as Rostnsthal once being Sthalmann (Limsa) and Milfinia once being Ascilia (Ul'dah).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    What the wark?! Hold your chocobos Ferne! Is Minfilia from the future? I mean, we meet Ascilia in the present day for the UD story. How can they both exist at the same time? Do both versions (young and old) exist at the same time the game took place?. Ascilia could go to the Path HQ and see her older self? What the wark?

    Oh man, my head hurts.
    All is explained in earlier posts, lol we worked hard on these theories. When I was doing my synopsis of the Ul'dah storyline that's when I came up with the "Ascilia = Minfilia" theory and it's nice to be correct for once. Like Moose has already said, everything up until the Path of the Twelve is part of an Echo and you Echo within an Echo. dun dun dun

    Thank you Ferne for responding so quickly to my questions and it's good to know we'll learn what actually is going on in the Ul'dah storyline because there's so much hidden. Can't wait to have that "ooooooooh" moment when we learn about who 'killed' Niellefresne. My money is on an assassin hired by Lord Lolorito of the Syndicate.

    Also high five to all my buddies who stuck around and were just as curious as me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    The 1.0 story was a little deep for me (really hard to understand what was going on). Especially in the beginning, I thought it was all present day, but apparently UD intro (Where you ride the carriage into town and watch the parade with Warburton and Ascilia) was the past or something, or...yeah, I'm confused.
    Yessir, check out the links in my sig and you'll get an explanation of both the Ul'dah storyline and Ascilia being Minfilia.

    EDIT: Wait a tick... do you think the breaking of the aetherial seal is what made Seal Rock rise from the depths in the first place?
    It could be Moose, everything related to Primals could have been 'released.'
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    Last edited by NoloeTazier; 01-19-2013 at 09:08 AM.
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