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    Excellent read Noloetazier
    At first i thought Niellefersne's killer was Corguevais coming back to make sure the truth was not discovered ...but as you pointed out is a Hyur not an Elezen...Then i thought it was an assassin hired to stop the necromancy from happening because its forbidden....But now i'll place my bets that the hooded guy was actually Warburton , that would explain why he didn't do anything to Ascillia and why Niellefresne was so shocked ..because the crypt was empty! remember through an Echo we find Corguevais and Ascillia alone with Warburton right at the moment he supposedly dies? what if they used something to make him appear to be dead but was just temporal?

    Now onto Jinrya Geky's find lol nice catch .. if you are right then it was Fenrir who had fun feasting on Garleands ..but who summoned him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Excellent read Noloetazier
    At first i thought Niellefersne's killer was Corguevais coming back to make sure the truth was not discovered ...but as you pointed out is a Hyur not an Elezen...Then i thought it was an assassin hired to stop the necromancy from happening because its forbidden....But now i'll place my bets that the hooded guy was actually Warburton , that would explain why he didn't do anything to Ascillia and why Niellefresne was so shocked ..because the crypt was empty! remember through an Echo we find Corguevais and Ascillia alone with Warburton right at the moment he supposedly dies? what if they used something to make him appear to be dead but was just temporal?

    Now onto Jinrya Geky's find lol nice catch .. if you are right then it was Fenrir who had fun feasting on Garleands ..but who summoned him?
    Yeah, I'll be honest. I watched each Cutscene probably 25+ times (looking for shadows) so I was carefully watching backgrounds and everything. The only Hyur that comes to mind is Warburton, he would have a full wardrobe makeover with his new black robe and those caligae. Now for Corgeuvais I'm pretty baffled by wardrobe changes, I can't explain why he goes from a bland robe (supposedly Imperial) to a sleek black robe with a purple collar. One theory that comes to my mind is that there were 2 Corguevais, by why would an imposter not wear the same clothes as the one he is trying to mimic. I don't know, there's too many holes when you try to paint Corguevais as anything. He's suppose to be an associate of Warburton but he does not know about Ascilia? Why would a random from Ala Mhigo be allowed to seal and control monsters during a Parade. If his mission is the same as Warburton and Warburton supposedly had important intel that Ul'dah needed to know, why would he be playing around at a Parade.

    Corguevais, Warburton, and Ascilia just bring up so many questions for me. If Ascilia was born in Ala Mhigo and children in Ala Mhigo are being brainwashed by the Garleans, how did she make it out? She would have to be older than 15 to have avoided the conflict. F'lhaminn was the only one to tell us that Warburton is from Ul'dah and was returning from Ala Mhigo with information, did he smuggle Ascilia out? If Warburton is instead an Imperial spy, why would he risk his daughter's life in the duty? What was Corguevais doing in the Nanawa mines?

    So frustrating, why couldn't Corguevais just be an Ascian to make things match Limsa >=(

    Edit: Sorry all the questions distracted me, it could definitely be that they used a spell or a potion (Damielliot) to make him appear dead, all just a cover up. But what comes from killing Niellefresne? You learn in the Goldsmith quests that since Nielle stole the Heartstrike dagger that the Esthaime name was tarnished and his father was removed as Guildmaster but Master Lolorito kept his brother Colbernoux around. I don't see how that can help the Empire's cause in Ul'dah. Also Nielle is currently in like a suspended animated state, he cannot pass on because of the Heartstrike, I just wonder how the jewel shattering made this happen, but I guess if you go deep in it and theorize a whole lot you could come up with the jewel having the power to stop the dead from dying and using Thaumaturge arts you could somehow control the dead body? Maybe that's how they planned to "resurrect" Warburton and ask him questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
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    Yeah it is very confusing but Warburton had more than one motive to kill Niellefresne.
    1.How Niellefresne rigged the parade to cause an accident that almost cost his daughter's life
    2.In consequence his mission is interrupted
    3.Maybe they find out about Niellefresne's true intentions with the information he posses
    Also i can't stop thinking about F'lhaminn's expression when you walk into the crypt with Tanchred ...is too suspicious like "damn they gonna find out" or "its going as planned" evil grin animators didn't put that in just because..and who is her "loved" one that she sings for ? obviously is not Niellefresne as she doesn't give a damn about him after/during the incident
    And after that mission you never hear about them again.

    EDIT: Looking at the Ul'dah intro again the story doesn't make sense.. Warburton is admiring the fireworks with Ascillia and seems to have all the time of the world yet he has vital important information for the same people that's walking around him preparing the parade and doesn't tell them?
    From then till the Parade happens is unknown how much time passes by and still he hasn't delivered this information and you are witnessing all this supposedly through an Echo. At the end of the intro you see Ascillia crying by Warburton laying on the ground left side of the gobbue its the only time you get to see his shoes and seem quite similar to that of the guy that stabs Niellefresne.
    Also if you look at it Corguevais is the only one that takes a direct hit from the gobbue yet he is fine and Warburton dies from a brush? a rock didn't hit him...so something is fishy what are your thoughts?
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