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    As always I look forward to your posts Anonymoose.

    We have two path companions who are shamelessly gender biased and making assumptions. What's odd is that a bunch of them refer to the paragon as a "he"/"him" earlier in the very same quest. Almost all of them, in fact. I only listed a few of the nine.

    Do we conclude with the majority and assume it is a him? Possibly Urianger?

    Or do we take this ambiguity as a sign to leave it alone until they flat out tell us who it is?

    Thanks for bringing this one to the table, Hiir. Something tells me it would have thrown a wrench in a discussion someday if we hadn't checked it out XD
    I myself am on the Urianger boat, while the Circle of Knowing were watching and waiting on the City States response to the Garlean threat, Urianger was dealing another card. Give the Beastmen more power or show them how to use their current power so they can defend themselves, it's not just 5 Races living in Eorzea, we're all in it together and we all stood to lose everything if the Garleans won. Teach the natives how to defend themselves. But on the other side Louisoix (with knowledge of Urianger's role?) after seeing that the City States would only be as powerful as the Adventurers who showed them loyalty, gave the Adventurers the ability to take out the Primals if they become too much of a threat or a burden on the plans they had of the future. Course thats all blind assumption and trying to give more substance to the story.

    All in all, the only one being hinted at being a Paragon is Urianger. He's one busy Archon if he is. But maybe Paragons have a lot to do with the Archons, we do know he knows how to summon things. (dun dun dun Arcanist/Summoner)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoloeTazier View Post
    As always I look forward to your posts Anonymoose.



    I myself am on the Urianger boat, while the Circle of Knowing were watching and waiting on the City States response to the Garlean threat, Urianger was dealing another card. Give the Beastmen more power or show them how to use their current power so they can defend themselves, it's not just 5 Races living in Eorzea, we're all in it together and we all stood to lose everything if the Garleans won. Teach the natives how to defend themselves. But on the other side Louisoix (with knowledge of Urianger's role?) after seeing that the City States would only be as powerful as the Adventurers who showed them loyalty, gave the Adventurers the ability to take out the Primals if they become too much of a threat or a burden on the plans they had of the future. Course thats all blind assumption and trying to give more substance to the story.

    All in all, the only one being hinted at being a Paragon is Urianger. He's one busy Archon if he is. But maybe Paragons have a lot to do with the Archons, we do know he knows how to summon things. (dun dun dun Arcanist/Summoner)
    Showing the primal how to summon there god is not good for eorzea also tho it use up to much life energy from the world to summon them i mean if he did show them seem mess up in a way letting them use so much energy to summon there own god. You think they know how to summon there own god by the god telling them not just a random person lol but who knows can't wait for 2.0 to learn more about the storyline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Showing the primal how to summon there god is not good for eorzea
    Depends on your definition of good, I suppose. You know me, I like to analyze all of the implications of even the least likely of theories (Siren); which brings me to the idea of long-term goals.

    Urianger was accused of being part of a group of mages who directly caused at least one umbral era to befall us, the other side of the story claims that it was this very same group who was the archons, and that they saved us from the umbral era in question.

    The paragon's motivations were either to unite the beast tribes and their primals with the woken races against the Empire... or to goad the Empire into resuming the Eorzean campaign in the first place. The new NA website says that the Garlean Empire resumed their march in 1571. Either this is a typo (it also says we knew peace for "more than a decade," which we most certainly did not if Midgardsormr has anything to say about the matter from back in 1562), or the Empire started moving on the primals before we even knew about them - right after they had been summoned for the first few times.

    If the latter is the case, perhaps the Paragon knew that summoning the primals would make the Empire attack, and the Empire's attack would lead to the fall of Dalamud, which would lead to the rise of the Archons and collapse us into an Umbral Era.

    If Urianger is this Paragon, then he would be directly responsible for the Seventh Umbral Era... which begins with Dalamud's fall... which is an event that was foretold in the very prophecy he was spouting when he first showed up. Perhaps the Archons are responsible for making sure the Umbral Eras hit at the precise time that we can deal with them, nothing more, and nothing less. That would explain Louisoix smile at the last moment... the ritual fails, and he understands that this isn't about him; that his story is over, but he has done everything he needed to do to ensure the Seventh Astral Era will come.

    Not quite a theory, but just a thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    How did Bahamut's manifestation manage to stay in our realm after throwing a Megaflare if all hes got is the two meals of Aether from Garuda and Ifrit?
    Garuda, Ifrit, untold amounts of crystals from veins within the Darkhold, Toto-Rak, and Mor Dhona, likely a good amount of the loose aether left over from the breaking of the seal upon Midgardsormr's death, ground veins that Nael took out, possible transmissions from the cerulem-powered transmitters at Castrum Novum, all power residing within and collected by Nael upon his death in To Kill a Raven... there's a lot of options. If you go back to the first time Darnus showed up and assume that every bit of aether he gained control of since then ended up at Dalamud - that's a good chunk. We're talking everything since 1.18 and the reformation of the Grand Companies at least.

    My post about Dalamud and the ritual has been temporarily postponed to the discovery of Eorzean script all over everything.

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    : Nevermind, it's just the alphabet written in order.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 11-22-2012 at 05:46 PM.
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