CG Midlander

[Catapult]

Servers are back up. We've got ten days at least till they re-assess.

GET IN THERE!

EDIT: Been re-watching cutscenes and discovered I still have a question about the opening CG movie. I'll start with this quote:

Minfilia: The Echo allows you to breach the wall of a person's soul, and hear the resonations of their past. You will be there in their memories, seeing things as they saw them. You may even interact with that which lies therein. However, the past is like a stone tablet. You cannot uncarve what is already written.

How does a guildleve allow me to "breach the wall of a person's soul?" Whenever I use the echo, the person I'm using it on is physically present.



Also, I found another Horn in Court in the Sands:

Ironically, a number of people go into a bit of a rage not long after this fella and the Songstress of Ul'dah start performing.


Edit Edit:
OMG HOW DID I MISS THIS!?!?!

^Sealing Dalamud ritual on the banner above Minfilla's desk.

[Catapult]

Niice find, but... hmm

The letters in the center. The left one closely resembles the Eorzean F, but the right one... doesnt match any eorzean characters at all. the Latin letter F perhaps, but that has no place there, right?

Numbers. It is "12" and can be compared to signs in the market wards.

[Majoga]

After Ferne's post it really got me to thinking though questioning if the Twelve are in fact what we think they are? When I first saw Ifrit he mentioned the false gods (I think he was talking about the Twelve) and also mentioned our creator was a different Primal although we never really found out which one. At first it sounded like he was just jealous, but after Ferne's Lore-bomb it got me to thinking what if Ifrit was right? What if the Twelve are just some old ancient race using superior technology to make them god-like? Sound familiar (Zilart)? Idk about you guys but to me Dalamud seemed to be one such device. So thinking of it this way I can see how broke free from the second Pokeball and Goku Spirit Bomb Bahamut Giga Flare everything.

Also not to piss anyone off, but I personally think since we're going to get Arcanist/Summoner to me it kind of makes sense that we would start off summoning our own Primal (Carby). Ijs.

[Inzoum]

OMG HOW DID I MISS THIS!?!?!

^Sealing Dalamud ritual on the banner above Minfilla's desk.

I can't say I paid much attention to that then, but this was probably in the game before the whole Dalamud idea came to be, so I highly doubt it initially represented the sealing ritual. The characters inside are "12", and there are twelve staff-like shapes around the circle. To me that's either a symbol representing the Twelve themselves, or just a banner for the Path of the Twelve. This is in Minfilla's office after all.

What is highly possible, however, is that Dalamud's exterior aspect and the sealing ritual's eye candy were imagined in relation to this symbol, giving it a new meaning in the process.

[Warlock]

I can't say I paid much attention to that then, but this was probably in the game before the whole Dalamud idea came to be, so I highly doubt it initially represented the sealing ritual. The characters inside are "12", and there are twelve staff-like shapes around the circle. To me that's either a symbol representing the Twelve themselves, or just a banner for the Path of the Twelve. This is in Minfilla's office after all.

What is highly possible, however, is that Dalamud's exterior aspect and the sealing ritual's eye candy were imagined in relation to this symbol, giving it a new meaning in the process.

Well the possibility of Catapult been right is there lol we don't know how good she is with Echo and she could have witnessed the first sealing ritual.

My own theory is that banner representing the event that awakes our echo power, the star shower from the opening and they conveniently put 12 falling stars to represent the 12 deities

[Inzoum]

My point was that the game designers came up with the Dalamud storyline a long time after this asset was included in the game. Tanaka's vision of FFXIV didn't lead to it being destroyed by the moon's descent. If this was part of the original game before Yoshida took the lead, then it's impossible to attribute this symbol's origins to the sealing ritual that created Dalamud, because that's something Yoshida imagined, not Tanaka. Thus, it has to have another significance: I wouldn't look much further than "represents the Twelve, because this is the office of the Path of the Twelve's head missus"

[Judge_Xero]

Thanks OP for starting the Thread.
- "Mind is Blown" - Loving this Lore!!!

I can't say I paid much attention to that then, but this was probably in the game before the whole Dalamud idea came to be, so I highly doubt it initially represented the sealing ritual.

What if Dalamud was always meant to be? Depending on how they are interpreted, there seems to be sublte hints all over that indicate, all that has come to pass was already written.

What if the "Past" was meant to fail? So a shining new future could reign under the watch of a powerful ruler. In a world that was recreated by the people, for the people.

[Orophin]

@Fernehalwes: Thanks for posting that, good read. Too bad you can't tell us more (yet)

Which quest is that from? I don't remember anything like this (Gridanian here)

Travanchet was from the Limsa Lominsan storyline, and that image was taken from the quest "Never Shall the Twain Meet", which was the last quest in the series before being scooted off to Ul'Dah to start the Path of the Twelve quests.

After analyzing the progression of quests in the original storyline, I wonder if their original vision was to layout the quests in the manner that FFXI did. By that I mean, you do about three ranks worth of missions for your home city, learn about the greater threat which is the Shadow Lord, then once he's defeated, go back to helping out your home city.

The feeling of incompleteness of your main city's storyline reflects this I think. The formula it followed was:

Do stuff pertaining to your home city
Learn about the Garlean threat, which was really never concluded since Gaius whooped some ass (Path of the Twelve)
(Incomplete step) Go back and deal with whatever was going on in home city. In the case of Limsa Lominsa, learn more about the Ascians and the Sahagin.

At least that's the way I felt it was going to play out.

[Warlock]

Edit Edit:
OMG HOW DID I MISS THIS!?!?!

^Sealing Dalamud ritual on the banner above Minfilla's desk.

I just looked at this CS again in full screen and I'm fully convinced now this represents the sealing spell of Bahamut each one of those things have a pointy tip and a deity symbol on the other end just like in the trailer ,also there seems to be a dragon shaped figure in the circle and last below and above is a "key" representing the final lock (?) to the spell ...remember the first piece that drops from Dalamud in the trailer and the tip that hits the ground first has no deity symbol.

So what does this mean? Minfilia witnessed this through Echo? as the leader of the organization we can assume she is more skilled using it