Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
What proof do we have that the primals, who allegedly preside over the Umbral/Astral cycles of the city-states for potentially millennia, were born only 10 years ago in the Battle of Silvertear Skies? That'd be as if the Imperials flew in and made an a pre-existant (even if non-chronological in latent forces) Eorzea self-aware.

What relationship do we have between the dragons and the primals?

Any theories on the huge disparity in Imperial involvement between the first (Tanaka) and second (Yoshida) versions of the "second starshower"?

Why call the return of a single imprisoned 'sin' (Dalamud) a starshower of its own? Even if the fragmentation was similar enough, the differences seem pretty vast.

Do we have any idea as to the length of the eras? What other changes did the Silvertear Battle Starshower mark?
I didn't say they were born, they were merely released. On top of that Paragons appeared shortly after the Battle of Silvertear Skies and began teaching the Beast tribes how to summon the "God" they worship. 1564 Sixth Astral (2 years after the Battle of Silvertear Skies) the Amalj'aa were able to finally summon Ifrit. That's just an example but after the Battle and being taught how to summon the Primals by the Paragons, the Beast tribes began to stop trading crystals to the City States because they needed them to summon.

As for Dravanians and Primals, there was a NPC in Ul'dah that said the Dravanians worshipped a Dragon God. Probably Bahamut, but could as easily be another Dragon.

We're told that the Imperials halted their advance after Ala Mhigo because (again after Battle of Silvertear Skies) a Primals was summoned. The popular theories in the thread at the moment are it was either Odin or Ramuh that appeared/was summoned, because the next obvious invasion point would be North East Twelveswood and the Sylph tribe reside in this area. This could also be why the Sylph are hesitant to use their Primal, because they summoned Ramuh once before and they witnessed the destruction and power.

The 2nd Starshower was nothing like the 1st, the falling 'stars' were red in nature. I wouldn't call the difference vast, if Tanaka had carried on and used Dalamud in this way, who's to say it wouldn't look similar. It was just my theory that:
First Starshower: the release of the Primals.
Second Starshower: Dalamud.
I created a Timeline you should check it out, I went through every piece of NPC dialogue, Cutscene, Lodestone post, and Newspaper Article from the 3 papers: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post916706
Lots of things happened that year, 1562 of the Sixth Astral Era.