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[Mjollnir]

Mr. Moose, for minor typos like this:

Rostnsthal included, no on in the cabin has any answers as to what they player heard, but unwilling to accept this, they decide to head above decks and see if anyone there knows anything.

Do you just want it pointed out here (or in the new awesome Loremonger GE sub-forum that is about to exist, no doubt), or am I good to go in brandishing my newly-farmed e and make the edit myself?

I'd love to help with the Loremuncher wiki, as my FFXIV experience has been so greatly enhanced by this thread (btw I now believe that ARR takes place wholly within an echo thanks to the incredible echo paranoia you've given me), but I doubt I can do much to help aside from dropping 'e's (not like that) as I have incredibly poor perception as to stuff going on in the game, despite trying to watch and read it all.

I have it on good authority that a loregasm is what is experienced following the dropping of a lore bomb.

Thanks for the clarification. Mrs. Mjollnir will be incredibly grateful of my new knowledge, I'm sure!

[Anonymoose]

I am not familliar with it, but I can learn.

I am not well versed in wiki markup, but can easily read up and learn it.

In that case, I'll take a little break from prepwork and hammer together a little guide for building your own articles and start adding my most oft-used code into a single reference page. The first drafts are at the bottom of the How to Loremonger page; currently just first draft crash courses. In the meantime, I'm sure you'll be able to deduce how most things work just by looking at the code of a finished page and monkeying around with it. If you make a sandbox in your own userspace, you can experiment all you want without fear of messing anything up. When I first learn how to use something, I just take it to a sandbox and start trial and erroring the hell out of it until I understand what it does.

... you might want to distinguish the elezens as "male elezen" and "female elezen"

Good call. Added to mah to-dos.

... for minor typos ... am I good to go ... and make the edit myself?

Absolutely. A good rule of thumb is that if the meaning of nothing has been changed and only a simple error has been corrected, such as typos or broken code, have at it. Everything is done on that Shapeless Melody page except the proofreading and polish and I keep getting distracted by other prep work :P

[Vilhem]

In that case, I'll take a little break from prepwork and hammer together a little guide for building your own articles and start adding my most oft-used code into a single reference page. The first drafts are at the bottom of the How to Loremonger page; currently just first draft crash courses. In the meantime, I'm sure you'll be able to deduce how most things work just by looking at the code of a finished page and monkeying around with it. If you make a sandbox in your own userspace, you can experiment all you want without fear of messing anything up. When I first learn how to use something, I just take it to a sandbox and start trial and erroring the hell out of it until I understand what it does.

You don't have to stop your prepwork. I'm sure there's enough guides out there on how to code wiki pages. I usually learn "sandbox" style too xD Learned HTML and PHP that way >.>

[gahoo]

/me waits patiently for the steak dinner that necessarily is required for true lobbying efforts.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

so its like the Metal gear solid DB on the ps3 but for FFXIV lore?

[Warlock]

Why none is trying to solve my speculation?

[Catapult]

Why none is trying to solve my speculation?

I'm not seeing much to "solve" per say. They're valid observations and I can't think of anything to contribute to them.

[Fernehalwes]

Hello all, and (an embarrassingly belated) Happy New Year!

I just wanted to pop in and let you know that we're all still alive here (barely), and apologize about the relative drought of lore/localization bombs and bomblets (lorelocalization...lorlocalize...Lorloc! New monster confirmed for release! ). After a well-deserved summer vacation (yeah, I said summer), we returned to find our data stockings stuffed with a veritable cornucopia of new quests, Lodestone and benchmark goodness, and naming requests...in addition to all that spiffy stuff we aren't allowed to talk about yet (oh, and Pinurabi had some coal in his, as he's been quite naughty). We're currently in the process of pounding everything out, and so far we're right on schedule to meet our Beta Test deadline. Unfortunately, until Beta is released, we might not have as much time as we'd like to devote to fielding questions on the forums. That isn't to say we aren't following your threads and jotting down things that need to be addressed in the future! Just that we ask you bear with us a bit longer while we hit the final stretch!

Oh, and about that Lore page in the new Lodestone forums... We're in the process of escalating the issue right on up to Yoshi-P, so he knows how important this is for you guys. And we won't stop until we get that page up and running.

Until then, keep the speculation mill in good working order, and I'll see you all in Beta (but hopefully before then)!

[NoloeTazier]

Hello all, and (an embarrassingly belated) Happy New Year!

I just wanted to pop in and let you know that we're all still alive here (barely), and apologize about the relative drought of lore/localization bombs and bomblets (lorelocalization...lorlocalize...Lorloc! New monster confirmed for release! ). After a well-deserved summer vacation (yeah, I said summer), we returned to find our data stockings stuffed with a veritable cornucopia of new quests, Lodestone and benchmark goodness, and naming requests...in addition to all that spiffy stuff we aren't allowed to talk about yet (oh, and Pinurabi had some coal in his, as he's been quite naughty). We're currently in the process of pounding everything out, and so far we're right on schedule to meet our Beta Test deadline. Unfortunately, until Beta is released, we might not have as much time as we'd like to devote to fielding questions on the forums. That isn't to say we aren't following your threads and jotting down things that need to be addressed in the future! Just that we ask you bear with us a bit longer while we hit the final stretch!

Oh, and about that Lore page in the new Lodestone forums... We're in the process of escalating the issue right on up to Yoshi-P, so he knows how important this is for you guys. And we won't stop until we get that page up and running.

Until then, keep the speculation mill in good working order, and I'll see you all in Beta (but hopefully before then)!

Thanks for the heads up Ferne, definitely looking forward to beta and any scraps of Lore tidbits I can find here and there to piece together the Eorzean history and geography.

Questions I'd like to re-bump that I had on page 59.

Yeah, definitely think we should get an explanation of how the Eras work.

• Are Umbrals Eras short? Or does it depend on the destruction?
• 1500 years ago the Grand Companies got together in preparation for the Sixth Umbral, then it happened and the world was flooded, when did the Sixth Astral Era officially begin?
• Does time reset for each Era, ie when Umbral Eras happen, does it become Year 0?

Then I have a few questions about the Ul'dah storyline:

• Will we learn about what happened to Corguevais? Was he an Imperial spy or just the scapegoat of the Syndicate?
• Will we learn about Warburton's mission and what information he carried to his death?
• Will we learn about what Niellefresne saw in the coffin?
• Will we learn who the left-handed hooded Hyur was that stabbed Nielle? Did Lord Lolorito hire him because Nielle stole the dagger? If we was hired by Lolorito because Nielle stole the dagger, why didn't he take the dagger back? So if it wasn't Lolorito will we learn who they are associated with?
• Will Nielle finally be able to "rest in peace?" Possibly with the help of Greinfarr?
• Ascilia is Minfilia? Rightrightrightrightrightrightrightrightright?
• Will we learn about what happened to the Horn Corguevais stole? Is it the same or a brother to the Horn from the Limsa storyline? Why didn't the Ascians or their helpers go after the Ul'dah Horn?

[Fernehalwes]

Okay, let me do a quick pass over your questions while I take a breather from all this Beta madness...

Are Umbrals Eras short? Or does it depend on the destruction?

It depends on the destruction. The Umbral Eras are the periods of chaos and regrouping that follow the cataclysms that end each Astral Era. The regrouping can take several years, to several decades. More on this, and what happened during the 7th Umbral Era, will be laid out in detail in the 2.0 storyline.

1500 years ago the Grand Companies got together in preparation for the Sixth Umbral, then it happened and the world was flooded, when did the Sixth Astral Era officially begin?

'1500 years ago' is merely a rough estimate here (in retrospect, "somewhere between 15 and 16 centuries ago," would have been a better way to put it). I can assure you that the Grand Companies got together right at the end of the 5th Astral Era to prepare for the coming of the 6th Umbral Era, not in the (1572 minus 1500 equals) year 72 of the 6th Astral Era. Sorry about the confusion on that one!

Does time reset for each Era, ie when Umbral Eras happen, does it become Year 0?

Yes. Timers for each era (both Astral and Umbral) reset (but at year 1, not 0 ).

Will we learn about what happened to Corguevais? Was he an Imperial spy or just the scapegoat of the Syndicate?
Will we learn about Warburton's mission and what information he carried to his death?
Will we learn about what Niellefresne saw in the coffin?
Will we learn who the left-handed hooded Hyur was that stabbed Nielle? Did Lord Lolorito hire him because Nielle stole the dagger? If we was hired by Lolorito because Nielle stole the dagger, why didn't he take the dagger back? So if it wasn't Lolorito will we learn who they are associated with?
Will Nielle finally be able to "rest in peace?" Possibly with the help of Greinfarr?
Will we learn about what happened to the Horn Corguevais stole? Is it the same or a brother to the Horn from the Limsa storyline? Why didn't the Ascians or their helpers go after the Ul'dah Horn?

The quest team has promised me that sometime in the near future (maybe not exactly at release) they will look into introducing a quest line that will help clear some of the haze and tie up at least a few of the loose ends regarding Corguvais, Warburton, Niellfresne, and the whole gang. The story is already there, so it's really only a matter of getting the resources together to tell it.

Ascilia is Minfilia? Rightrightrightrightrightrightrightrightright?

Maybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybemaybe...alright, you got me.
Yes, Minfilia is Ascilia. There, I shall allow you some time to properly gather those pieces of your mind that were splattered across your monitor.


Now it's back to work!