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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Eh? I said i assume that they wont move it, since they didnt say a word on it. I just made clear that thinking they would move it in first place is also assuming things.

    Moving digital Data can be expensive as moving the Hardware itself or even more expensive. That depends on different factors.. you should know, since you are a programmer. Thinking that moving digital data is always cheap is straight wrong.

    Existing people will get access to it, at least via World Transfer. World Transer = Money income for the Company btw.

    1. i am not angry, why would i?
    2. i said i am assuming that they dont move it.
    3. what is your point?

    Correct.

    Where did i ever complain about something? I were just pointing out, like i stated above, that the whole Topic is just assuming that the Servers would move. It is possible, i never said it is not.
    I am sorry but you made it very clear you were not assuming in your first post, to even say people are lazy to not research:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    I dont have to prove anything. If people are to lazy to research.

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    Welcome to the NA-Forums.

    To clarify this again:

    - Existing Players will not be able to move to the new Servers.
    - Existing Players will have an initial choice of switching to a different ( currently existing ) Server.
    - NEW Servers will be the ones which are located in regional Data-Center ( Japan, Europe or North America ).
    - OLD Servers will be still in Japan, they are not going anywhere.

    People ask if you can switch as a current Player to a "regional server", the answer is: No you can not, since the old Servers will be still in Japan. So you are not able to switch to a regional Server and the OLD Servers will remain International. SE will introduce a World Transfer similiar to FFXI at a certain Time ( Which will be most likely based on stability on the Economy on the new Server ). What's so hard to understand about this?

    Of course SE could go and bring some of the Current Servers to the Data-Centers around the Globe, but that we dont know.

    You seemed very confident to know about what is going on.

    No, moving the data will never be more expensive as moving the Data + Hardware because it is just that, its cost of moving data plus the cost of moving the hardware, Even if moving the data is more costly than hardware, you always need that data, you cant just move the hardware alone in this situation because you need that data. So it is always going to be cheaper to just send the data. Which they wouldn't do because they would not ship over hardware they can already get on that server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I would actually go so far as to say the current servers are not going anywhere simply based on the fact that the servers are staying up after the final save (based on the results of the player poll) as Yoshi stated in one of the recent letters. So it's very reasonable to assume that since they are transferring the data anyway, that they probably will transfer certain worlds to the new data centers.

    You've got to think about it logically. There is absolutely no reason to keep all of the current worlds in Japan, while there are plenty of good reasons not to. That coupled with the fact that they are already transferring the data to new servers. Moving the data across the room or across the world is hardly different from a technological standpoint.
    Molly, I understand what you mean by your statement about servers staying up but it is still irrelevant i think, simply due to the fact that the data we will be using from nov1st onwards is not the data we will be using in ARR, that data is not being transferred. ONLY the data that is saved in 1 hour is being moved. Weather the game stays up for another 2 months or not means nothing because the data for those 2 months is separate.

    They are spending this 2 hours to create a copy of the current data at that point. That is the whole point of this "your data will not update after nov 1st" because they have it already from that point.

    They do a copy, not a cut.

    You can be happily playing on US server now with your character but when ARR comes in couple months, your data that was saved today may have gone through those futuristic space tubes to US or EU :P
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    Last edited by viion; 11-01-2012 at 04:52 AM.