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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    You mean that Data-Center's will be place around the World? Here:
    context please? I can't read Japanese...

    that post seems to state that certain worlds will be located in the Japanese data centers and some elsewhere. It doesn't say anything about existing worlds being only in the Japanese data center. I want to know where you got that info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    context please? I can't read Japanese...
    Learn it? <_<

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...495#post826495

    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    We are curious where it is stated that current servers will be in Japan datacenter. as far as I know we do not know where the current servers will go, with "best guess" being based on region influence.
    Where are the current Servers? Correct, in Japan. Did anyone say they would move it? Noone did. So as long as SE dont say, that servers will be moved, we can assume they will stay there. And i also said above:

    Of course SE could go and bring some of the Current Servers to the Data-Centers around the Globe, but that we dont know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    It doesn't say anything about existing worlds being only in the Japanese data center. I want to know where you got that info.
    It does not say, that they will be moved either. What did you say again earlier? " but we all know what most forum posters do with logic; they throw it out the window to conclude the most illogical scenario they possibly can,"

    I said, it is possible that SE could bring current Servers to the Data-Centers ( see above ), but we dont know that. And nothing even close to assume that they actually would, have been ever posted. So the logical way is to assume that it stays the way it is, until SE says otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Learn it? <_<

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...495#post826495



    Where are the current Servers? Correct, in Japan. Did anyone say they would move it? Noone did. So as long as SE dont say, that servers will be moved, we can assume they will stay there. And i also said above:
    You know what assumptions do? They make an ass out of you and me. Make no assumptions, especially when dealing with technical details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    You know what assumptions do? They make an ass out of you and me. Make no assumptions, especially when dealing with technical details.
    Not that SE would explain every single Detail on their technical Plans to us, but i also think they would tell us if they plan to move the current existing server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Assuming is bad and isn't a valid source of information. Did anyone say they AREN'T moving?
    Speaking of deductive reasoning. Using Theories about Servers will be regional or segrated, without knowing if they are moving or not, is the same no? Why would you assume they would move in first place? But yeah, it is an assumption. Like it or not, assuming SE will move them is actually an assumption too, which is actually more expensive for the Company. So SE would need a good reason to do it.

    Something i would like to add:

    Most people obviously dont think about the cost of moving a Server. So why would SE move the Server, if they could save the Money and buy them in the Region of the Data-Center? It is not like a Game-Server is something you could carry around like a PC.



    To give People an Idea. So it is more reasonable to let the current Server's stay in Japan instead of moving them, since the cost-factor would be hilarious to move the around the whole Globe. Like it or not, guessing around that SE would actually move them in first place is an assumption too. And also, since it would be expensive to do it, SE would need a really good reason to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Not that SE would explain every single Detail on their technical Plans to us, but i also think they would tell us if they plan to move the current existing server.



    Speaking of deductive reasoning. Using Theories about Servers will be regional or segrated, without knowing if they are moving or not, is the same no? Why would you assume they would move in first place? But yeah, it is an assumption. Like it or not, assuming SE will move them is actually an assumption too, which is actually more expensive for the Company. So SE would need a good reason to do it.

    Something i would like to add:

    Most people obviously dont think about the cost of moving a Server. So why would SE move the Server, if they could save the Money and buy them in the Region of the Data-Center? It is not like a Game-Server is something you could carry around like a PC.



    To give People an Idea. So it is more reasonable to let the current Server's stay in Japan instead of moving them, since the cost-factor would be hilarious to move the around the whole Globe. Like it or not, guessing around that SE would actually move them in first place is an assumption too. And also, since it would be expensive to do it, SE would need a really good reason to do it. Like it or not.
    Those also appear to be bolted to the floor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Those also appear to be bolted to the floor!
    The ones with wheels can roll themselves across the ocean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Those also appear to be bolted to the floor!
    Most of the time they are. XD At least in the Companies i work. But yeah, that is why i assume they stay in Japan. SE never said they would move it in first place and you need very good reasons to take the costs to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Most of the time they are. XD At least in the Companies i work. But yeah, that is why i assume they stay in Japan. SE never said they would move it in first place and you need very good reasons to take the costs to do it.
    They don't have to physically move the server to move the world. They can just transfer the data. Isn't that what today's final save is for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Not that SE would explain every single Detail on their technical Plans to us, but i also think they would tell us if they plan to move the current existing server.

    Speaking of deductive reasoning. Using Theories about Servers will be regional or segrated, without knowing if they are moving or not, is the same no? Why would you assume they would move in first place? But yeah, it is an assumption. Like it or not, assuming SE will move them is actually an assumption too, which is actually more expensive for the Company. So SE would need a good reason to do it.

    Something i would like to add:

    Most people obviously dont think about the cost of moving a Server. So why would SE move the Server, if they could save the Money and buy them in the Region of the Data-Center? It is not like a Game-Server is something you could carry around like a PC.



    To give People an Idea. So it is more reasonable to let the current Server's stay in Japan instead of moving them, since the cost-factor would be hilarious to move the around the whole Globe. Like it or not, guessing around that SE would actually move them in first place is an assumption too. And also, since it would be expensive to do it, SE would need a really good reason to do it.
    This makes no sense? Why would you assume because the server is a big ass machine in Japan that it will stay in Japan and that the server itself has anything to do with it?

    They can easily deliver the data themselves or send it ya know by digital means. You dont need to take the hardware. They do have a couple of months until we need our data back.

    They will likely use a branded data center like Sony and thus you wouldn't move hardware, sony has the hardware, all they need is the digital data which can be sent over by easier means in several different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    This makes no sense? Why would you assume because the server is a big ass machine in Japan that it will stay in Japan and that the server itself has anything to do with it?

    They can easily deliver the data themselves or send it ya know by digital means. You dont need to take the hardware. They do have a couple of months until we need our data back.

    They will likely use a branded data center like Sony and thus you wouldn't move hardware, sony has the hardware, all they need is the digital data which can be sent over by easier means in several different ways.
    Maybe they could print the data onto scrolls of paper. Then they could put those scrolls into capsules. After that, they could send those capsules to the EU and US through a series of tubes. Then use scanners to scan the data into the new data centers.

    That still sounds easier than moving the servers. Because, you know, they're bolted down.
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