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  1. #51
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    I like the zillions of new voice options even though we didn't get to hear them...but knowing there's way more is good.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    People don't realise that by saying "it's alpha" they're actually just agreeing with people who say "it can be improved".

    It's so futile these debates when everyone's just agreeing with eachother and don't realise it.
    No one has ever in the history of video games has used "alpha" in agreement. "Alpha" is used to shut down discussion and criticism on the presumption that things will substantially change over the course of development. There is no guarantee things will change. There is no guarantee SE is even listening to us. But we can be sure they aren't psychic, so saying nothing at all benefits nobody.

    We have literally nothing to lose by saying this or that should be improved/implemented, regardless of development stage.
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  3. #53
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    The single best argument against "it's alpha" is quite literally Final Fantasy XIV.

    So it is funny that this community still hasn't learned its lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    The single best argument against "it's alpha" is quite literally Final Fantasy XIV.

    So it is funny that this community still hasn't learned its lesson.
    It's gamma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    It's gamma.
    I want this as my sig
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    1. The amazing amount of IMPROVEMENT in character creation. (don't think so? please show me one that looks better)
    I'm glad you're happy with the character creator right now, but I'm actually wondering what was different about it from the 1.0 character creator. We got more voices, tail-length customization, bust-size/build textures and.... ? (That's really not a whole lot, especially since all but one of those things was already in 1.0 to a limited extent)

    Almost every current-gen MMO (PSO2, GW2, Tera, etc) has a better / more customizable character creator than the build of the 2.0 character creator that was in that video. Personally I found it pretty underwhelming.
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  7. #57
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    It's all nice and all. I don't mind, but the Character creation in Dragon's Dogma is 100 folds better than this.
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  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Radnar View Post
    I'm glad you're happy with the character creator right now, but I'm actually wondering what was different about it from the 1.0 character creator. We got more voices, tail-length customization, bust-size/build textures and.... ?

    Almost every current-gen MMO (PSO2, GW2, Tera, etc) has a better / more customizable character creator than the build of the 2.0 character creator that was in that video. Personally I found it pretty underwhelming.
    But remember, based on some people, the graphics in those games < FFXIV ARR so XIV wins by default with the better Character Creator.

    It's an improvement over 1.0s, that alone should make people happy, but they want more and more and if you say to show you a better one..there's plenty of even F2P MMOs out there with better CC, but like every MMO, something is really good (CC for example) while something suffers horribly (grind heavy if you don't spend real money.)
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    But remember, based on some people, the graphics in those games < FFXIV ARR so XIV wins by default with the better Character Creator.
    Ehh, graphics alone don't make a game. FF14 1.0 was pretty, yeah, but as we all know, it sucked when it first came out. Granted, nice graphics and awesome CG cutscenes is SE's forte... I mean, just look at the Agni's Philosophy tech demo.

    And then you have games like Minecraft, which at default settings look like an advanced NES 8-bit game... and you find out that people played it more than Modern Warfare 3 on the 360 last week. Personally, this makes me very happy because I love Minecraft and its creativity options, and I hate the Call of Duty series with a passion because it's nothing but uninspired militaristic FPS games that came about due to Halo's popularity and the other mass influx of FPS's around the beginning of the 360/PS3 era, and are starting to become shovelware even though people still mindlessly buy into them during the holiday seasons and don't give enough market share to other good games being released around the same time...

    *takes deep breath* /endrant

    ANYWAY...

    As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather see a wide aesthetic variety of characters like these:








    And even as crazy as this:







    ...rather than eventually see a bunch of equally sized and proportionate characters that look nearly identical and all have on the exact same armor sets because they're currently the best in the game right now. Granted, if they give us vanity slots, then that'll help out immensely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yucie
    lol PSO2, a game that will die within months because of SEGA being bad at handling a game, especially in the west.
    Lol... I understand where you're coming from. I played PSU on the PC/PS2 servers...

    I'm cautiously awaiting the US release and HOPING they'll be caught up in content with the Japanese servers. If they don't, then it'll be PSU all over again. If only they'd release an official English language patch, then I'd just play on the JP servers since they went to F2P...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    No one has ever in the history of video games has used "alpha" in agreement. "Alpha" is used to shut down discussion and criticism on the presumption that things will substantially change over the course of development. There is no guarantee things will change. There is no guarantee SE is even listening to us. But we can be sure they aren't psychic, so saying nothing at all benefits nobody.

    We have literally nothing to lose by saying this or that should be improved/implemented, regardless of development stage.
    I know. And the people saying "it's alpha" are basically just reiterating your point that it needs improvement. Secretly. They don't realise it, but secretly it's what theyre technically saying.
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