What I noticed in the character creation video.

[Fadigre]

I rather them make us a Splendid game to play , then make a Fashion Design game. While I agree there should be "More hairstyles" it's not the end of the world, the game is far more important then a few measly hair designs. If you have a a Crappy game but a Top Notch Character creation, the CC will amount to nothing. If you have a Splendid game but a decent CC, the game still has a chance to shine through in which we all want more than anything I assume.

They can always make more hair Designs down the road and even open up a Barbershop to fix ones hair. It's not the end of the world, they can make more hair designs as ARR continues it's lifespan. If people worry about this kind of thing now, ARR might not even see the light of day come release time. Game>Aesthetics This isn't a Barbie dress up game.

This doesn't really relate back to your point of the playerbase and how they should be grateful

From what I can see from your post, you hold a lot of value to gameplay. There's nothing wrong with that, we're all different. I know when I was younger I would have said the same thing.

I'm now at a stage where if aesthetics and gameplay are not balanced then I quickly lose interest in single player games (multiplayer games are different, I'm engaged through competition easily, this is why I'm not incredible bummed out by the hairstyle thing and why I allowed myself to rush my character to begin with).

The aesthetic's job is to immerse the player into the world. This is the reason why educational games normally fail to engage a player as they have terrible aesthetics. If we are not engaged with FFXIV then we will see it for all it really is; a bunch of menus and buttons. If we were to take away all the aesthetics from any game then it can easily be compared to navigating Microsoft Excel.

Gameplay is always composed of several smaller games such as in a shooter you have to pull your trigger when you get your crosshair over a target whilst also scavanging for pick-ups and managing the terrain. With aesthetics to glue all of this together, games are seen for what they really are; several unimportant goals a player must achieve to progress.

If you'd like to learn about how important aesthetics are to a person like me I'd take a look at this link

And on a final note; you can take any concept and dumb it down so it sounds stupid, such as the Barbie dress-up game comment. How a person looks and dresses are important parts of the world. So important in fact that people make careers out of it.
I can easily say that all any MMO is about is running around and killing things.

[Shura]

I know it can all be adjusted, but idn, it kinda ruins the feel of the game when you have people actually wanting balloon or lollypop heads. Me: *Walking* lalalalala *Runs into Big grapefruit head* .... >.> Then I see like 4 other people like that, especially when you have RMT they make crazy looking characters with crazy names and stuff.. it just ruins the feel of the game.

In CC, there really should be "some restrictions" so that the game doesn't pop Really atrocious looking characters running about, and people will do that to troll even ( doesn't have to be RMT). I just feel the CC shouldn't be "totally" free to do what you want" because if that's the case ( like in Aion) people can and will make Fat heads with skinny bodies or small head wit fat bodies... it just doesn't look right.

True, some of the characters do look very unrealistic. In terms of options, and customization though, aion had one of the best CC that i have seen.

[Elexia]

wait.... isn't PSO2 the one with that huge disturbing glitch where the breasts don't stop bouncing... for all eternity o_O -shudders- so disturbing....http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=t9nwPK1nyI0
Yeah... I don't think that's a realistic looking game... I'm pretty sure breasts don't do that >_>

There's no glitch like that in the launch version. That was a technical demo during it's Alpha and early Beta.

People love to nitpick at the tiny little things

Someone receiving an answer to their "show me something better" isn't nitpicking.

[Starlord]

This doesn't really relate back to your point of the playerbase and how they should be grateful

From what I can see from your post, you hold a lot of value to gameplay. There's nothing wrong with that, we're all different. I know when I was younger I would have said the same thing.

I'm now at a stage where if aesthetics and gameplay are not balanced then I quickly lose interest in single player games (multiplayer games are different, I'm engaged through competition easily, this is why I'm not incredible bummed out by the hairstyle thing and why I allowed myself to rush my character to begin with).

The aesthetic's job is to immerse the player into the world. This is the reason why educational games normally fail to engage a player as they have terrible aesthetics. If we are not engaged with FFXIV then we will see it for all it really is; a bunch of menus and buttons. If we were to take away all the aesthetics from any game then it can easily be compared to navigating Microsoft Excel.

Gameplay is always composed of several smaller games such as in a shooter you have to pull your trigger when you get your crosshair over a target whilst also scavanging for pick-ups and managing the terrain. With aesthetics to glue all of this together, games are seen for what they really are; several unimportant goals a player must achieve to progress.

If you'd like to learn about how important aesthetics are to a person like me I'd take a look at this link

And on a final note; you can take any concept and dumb it down so it sounds stupid, such as the Barbie dress-up game comment. How a person looks and dresses are important parts of the world. So important in fact that people make careers out of it.
I can easily say that all any MMO is about is running around and killing things.

All I am saying is, in a 2 year span sometimes balance with certain things are sometimes out of reach, you can always add more stuff the to CC, but if you don't have a game to show for it, it will amount to nothing. I love making characters, and my gf makes her characters for twice the time it takes me :P. At launch, need to have the very good first impression on the game. FFXI didn't have all the good CC, it was simple and to the point, yet the game was soo good that I forget to look at my character XD.

Everyone is different and love different things, but if we are comparing apples and oranges and if you had to choose one or the other within a two year span frame to make it. Which would you choose? Awesome CC or Awesome Game?

Sometimes in life you can't have both. At least with CC they can build upon it after launch ( if it's not up to players expectations and still retain subs) but if the game sucks at launch, they probably won;t get there players back and the game will burn down to the ground.

I want both too, don't get me wrong I really want to make this awesome looking character that I can show off in-game. I just know that the game needs to be awesome in order for the CC to really count in it.

PS: the comment about Barbie dress up game, it was just rage from a combination of things so forget I said that XD.

[Fadigre]

Yeah, I can accept that. It is apples and oranges!

The character creation and the game itself don't really reflect on each other after a certain point. Like, if it were a graph there'd be really shallow climb after a certain point in regards to how deep a CC is and how it benefits a game.

Once the basics are in place that's 90% of your playerbase getting what they want.
Don't cover any bases though and make us all run around as something completely unrelated to XIV's world and we're in trouble. There's no danger of that though!

I don't believe all basics are in place though. XI's were but the industry and consumer expectations have moved since then. I think our guys at Enix know this though and any professional developer should have a team dedicated to the CC. I'm comfortable with saying that 2.0's CC will cater to that 90% of players!

In a way, my first comment regarding players who feel let down by the Alpha CC and worrying about if 2.0 will really cut it can be compared to those who believe the CC should be where it's at and if it were improved the game may lose resources and not be able to compete, too!

[Warlock]

All I am saying is, in a 2 year span sometimes balance with certain things are sometimes out of reach, you can always add more stuff the to CC, but if you don't have a game to show for it, it will amount to nothing. I love making characters, and my gf makes her characters for twice the time it takes me :P. At launch, need to have the very good first impression on the game. FFXI didn't have all the good CC, it was simple and to the point, yet the game was soo good that I forget to look at my character XD.

Everyone is different and love different things, but if we are comparing apples and oranges and if you had to choose one or the other within a two year span frame to make it. Which would you choose? Awesome CC or Awesome Game?

Sometimes in life you can't have both. At least with CC they can build upon it after launch ( if it's not up to players expectations and still retain subs) but if the game sucks at launch, they probably won;t get there players back and the game will burn down to the ground.

I want both too, don't get me wrong I really want to make this awesome looking character that I can show off in-game. I just know that the game needs to be awesome in order for the CC to really count in it.

PS: the comment about Barbie dress up game, it was just rage from a combination of things so forget I said that XD.

I'm glad is only a handful that have hair fetish like they never going to wear a hat/helmet ....the massive majority that actually play the game are fine with it its only alpha and already shows more than 1.0 CC and more is always more.. not matter how you slice it Reps need to take action and nuke these useless threads

[Ruisu]

Guys should be Grateful!

Blindly following whatever Square Enix does with this game =/= Grateful. While many forum members love complaining about the smallest detail, you're the exact opposite by defending every single little nitpick. It's okay to have some complaints about the game. The devs aren't perfect and that's what we're here for anyways.

[Starlord]

Blindly following whatever Square Enix does with this game =/= Grateful. While many forum members love complaining about the smallest detail, you're the exact opposite by defending every single little nitpick. It's okay to have some complaints about the game. The devs aren't perfect and that's what we're here for anyways.

Who said anyone was blind? I'm just showing facts from 1.0 alpha and 2.0 Alpha yet there more complaining, nothing ever pleases anyone these days. Your right it's okay to have complaints about the game absolutely right.

IMHO, we should be pointing out major flaws that can cripple the game flat, not some hairstyle that can be added later in the future. Prioritize, choose what to do first that has a greater impact.

you're the exact opposite by defending every single little nitpick.

You know I was sarcasm when I typed what you quoted, yet your trying to attack me? Typical forums can't have a decent conversation without harping on someone!

[Ralliare]

one thing i hated was the separation of hair colours into two separate options. Adds an extra click between testing out hair combinations, not great.

Apart from that amazing tho.

[Gramul]

its still in ALPHA.

Where have I heard this before?