I think the problem is, the name of the thread differs from what you guys actually mean. Even the OP differs from what you actually mean. I will admit I have been part of the NO XI 2 RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE group... but if the idea is given a different spin then it seems to be more negotiable. I'd be more interested in how people would spin the ideas from other FF games into the FFXIV:ARR world.