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    I am very much looking forward to ARR and I think it will be a success but I guess it depends on one's interpretation of success.

    I think that FFXIV ARR is going to be a huge hit...on the PS3 (esp. in Japan) and I believe that is SE's target audience and has been all along. Don't forget it was supposed to be released for PS3 shortly after the initial PC Launch 2 years ago but of course we all know it was a mess and would have been an even bigger disaster that they never would have recovered from.

    I am not worried that it will be a "WoW Clone" unless by "clone" you mean all the basic elements that are expected to be in a RPG/MMO, ie. Storyline, Quests, Character Progression, Dungeons, Gear Runs, Crafting, Player Based Economy/Auction House, Magic Spells, Weapon Skills, Class Skills, Job Skills, Solo Content, Party Content, Easy Content, Hard Content, Summons/Pets, Mounts, Transportation, Diverse Areas/Zones, etc., etc.

    For me it is not so much about what content is in the game (so long as there is alot of it) but rather how it is implemented and on this part I am putting some Faith in SE to pull it off. The reason I have Faith is because of FFXI.

    The main reason I enjoyed XI so much was not the game mechanics (they were pretty clunky) or the UI (also clunky) but rather it was because of the Stories that I was a part of: The Shadowlord, the Zilarts, the Promethians, Aht Urhgan, and the Goddess, even the City Missions and Sidequests had humor, intrigue, heartache, hope and loss intertwined throughout the game. SE has always been good at storytelling and I expect that to still be their strong suit in ARR.

    I also really, really liked the aspect that I could experience everything the game had to offer on my one main character, Davorok the Galka. This led to a very strong connection to my character and to the game world in general. This is what set FFXI apart from every other MMO at the time and still today is the only one (I believe) along with XIV that allows this. I always felt that if FFXI had a better UI and streamlined controls/mechanics that it would have been much more succesful and probably would be considered the greatest MMO of all time...Untill Now!

    I believe that FFXIV ARR just might be the Phoenix that rises from the ashes of Eorzea. Will it be a WoW Killer? Probably not and as I stated earlier I don't believe that is SE's intentions but rather they are creating the best Console RPG/MMO ever made which will also be very enjoyable on the PC as well...

    ...and I am looking forward to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Hate to break this to you, but SE isn't a non-profit doing this to increase world happiness.
    They are a business in it for the money.
    So people completely have a right to complain about a sub-par product, and most people -have- left.

    And if your idea is "well people who don't like it should leave" you will end up with no FFXIV since it will cost more to maintain the servers than the few fanboys sticking around will pay in monthly fees.

    You can't call someone an entitled crybaby since this is a game in a CAPITALISTIC MARKET where people are ENTITLED to a product WORTH THEIR MONEY.

    Don't like that concept? go to North Korea
    its a business alright and if you products suck your not gonna make any money. its that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post

    Don't like that concept? go to North Korea
    OMG yes please!

    Like seriously can I go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Hate to break this to you, but SE isn't a non-profit doing this to increase world happiness.
    They are a business in it for the money.
    So people completely have a right to complain about a sub-par product, and most people -have- left.
    hey, yeah, true. however- hate to break this to you, but you're not just butt hurt. you're butt devastated. cry harder though. make this thread another 427 times before official release of the 2.0 client. i'm sure that will change something. crying for the sake of crying. yep, really productive. i'm sure you'll teach them some kind of lesson.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    And if your idea is "well people who don't like it should leave" you will end up with no FFXIV since it will cost more to maintain the servers than the few fanboys sticking around will pay in monthly fees.
    actually, they're redesigning the game *because* people who didn't like it... left. that's the best way to vote- with your dollar. all this crying by you and your ilk is just baseless, bored posturing. so they're doing things the way they're doing them to bring back those players and bring in new blood, while doing what they can to keep around the tiny few who chose to gut it out.

    you overly loud crybabies repeating the same idiotic thread over and over again isn't going to destroy their sales. why do you play? why do you post? why do you pay? if you're that unhappy with everything, why are you still here? unfortunately, square is calling your bluff. of all the potential drops in the bucket- yours will be the smallest. your logic is backwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    You can't call someone an entitled crybaby since this is a game in a CAPITALISTIC MARKET where people are ENTITLED to a product WORTH THEIR MONEY.

    Don't like that concept? go to North Korea
    then, once again- vote with your dollar. shut up and stop playing. in the meantime i'll feel entitled to relentlessly mock you, and since this is a capitalist market and i pay just as much as you, there's really nothing you can do about it. sorry, sugar.

    don't like that concept? go make another inconsequential pathetic moaning thread about it. you will anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    anyone who has completed Rivenroad (Hard) should be sufficiently impressed with what a barebones dev crew has been able to produce on an overly restrictive timeframe using a broken client and woefully inefficient engine and coding architecture.

    if they can show the same level of execution in ARR, it should be very promising. and that's not even addressing how great the concept art looks.

    if people want more flash and bang in-game, they likely don't seem to realize just how few people are working on producing content for a dead client. have some perspective.

    if people want more info about ARR, they're spoiled. you're still a good 4-6 months away from launch. if you need OMGZ SO MANY INFOS to stay interested in the game, you may have ADHD and should probably get another hobby or three. come back when more info is available. in the meantime, you won't be missed.

    flail harder, friends. this forum definitely needs two dozen more of this exact thread. yyyyyep. definitely what it needs.

    when will you ever get tired of repeating yourselves? and why? for attention?



    right? i've played a lot of MMOs and i've never seen as many entitled crybabies as i have in these forums. makes me sick.
    This and your next post... please have my babies! D: Too bad that much sense in one place will just angry the princesses here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    This and your next post... please have my babies! D: Too bad that much sense in one place will just angry the princesses here.
    Thats a really sexist statement. Are you implying females (princesses) are whinier then males (princes)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Thats a really sexist statement. Are you implying females (princesses) are whinier then males (princes)?
    You're trying way too hard to start an argume-, oh. Azurymber is the one who blows everything out of proportion.

    Carry on, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    You're trying way too hard to start an argume-, oh. Azurymber is the one who blows everything out of proportion.

    Carry on, I guess.
    thats really rude... its just a sexist comment, thats all.
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    I could care less about the info, the fact that they said they will be releasing a lot of info, is what I care about. Also, I'm more excited about EQnext, and that just got announced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    I could care less about the info, the fact that they said they will be releasing a lot of info, is what I care about. Also, I'm more excited about EQnext, and that just got announced.
    when you effectively sign the ULA by agreeing to terms, there's a really important little blurb they tend to emphasize: "game experience may change during online play"

    why? because it's an MMO, and things change. timelines are incredibly hard to rigorously stick to. not everything goes according to plan. you have to adjust on the fly. you change your mind about things. you get the idea.

    did they say they'd release a flood of info? yep. did it come? depends on your definition of flood. apparently it's INCREDIBLY subjective. but they made the judgment call to withhold a lot of it until later, as to make a stronger marketing push closer to ARR's release.

    as far as business decisions go, that's the wisest.

    this makes you more excited for EQnext? cool story. go flail around on those forums for even less info than you're getting about ARR. but in the meantime square is trying to make the best possible decisions it can to ensure the success of their reimagined and relaunched MMO franchise. your feelings on the issue are your feelings, but this is business. nothing personal.
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