History repeats itself

[Fated]

Topics repeat themselves too.

[RoxyLalonde]

Why, do you think he called it Dynamis...

[Elexia]

Why, do you think he called it Dynamis...

Because that's the style of system he was talking about (Killing monsters for job/class specific gear really narrows it down), which as of right now only exists in FFXI in that exact design. If he was talkin about rifts popping up everywhere he'd be talking about either A. Voidwatch in FFXI B. Rifts in...Rift or C. The newer content in KTera.

Only one of those options would piss people off because it's the cool thing to hate on.

[Dannythm]

Square is "playing safe" now because they risk a lot trying to break the mold with 1.0, it wen't horribly wrong and now they are afraid of innovation.

[Erics_Asura]

Maybe not a mount or playable race... But an NPC version of Umaro(just hopefully a different name) in 14 graphics would look pretty badass. I'd like to see it. After all, why not? This MMO is more fan services, were already getting Magitek armor mount, FF3 crystal tower with boss, lets not forget the famous golden saucer from 7.

[RoxyLalonde]

Maybe not a mount or playable race... But an NPC version of Umaro(just hopefully a different name) in 14 graphics would look pretty badass. I'd like to see it. After all, why not? This MMO is more fan services, were already getting Magitek armor mount, FF3 crystal tower with boss.

>_> I don't even know if you're joking... Hilariously I kind of hope that you aren't.

[Erics_Asura]

I'm not joking, I think he would look badass in 14 graphics and would be interesting to see.. Or you talking about the other things I mentioned? Because those were announced a while ago. :x

[RoxyLalonde]

I'm not joking, I think he would look badass in 14 graphics and would be interesting to see.. Or you talking about the other things I mentioned? Because those were announced a while ago. :x

Nah, I was discussing Umaro specifically. It just makes me feel better that someone didn't take one of my examples of an extreme and agree with it just to annoy me.

[Alhanelem]

Is it just me or is it really cynical in here?

[Jaimie]

Slow leveling, Friendships, alliances, Real epic world or instance battles (Nidhogg...Ultima), knowledge on where you are or who your guiding leader is, Exploring, respect and reputation, MEMORIES... and a lot more
This is what made FFXI an epic mmo; every FFXI player will be able to remember and tell a good memory about the game, Valkurn dunes is something that brings a smile in most of us who played the game and most of us will have a memory or a story to tell about it... This is something that doesnt happen anymore in the MMOs and thats bc you can be done with an area in a matter of an hour... No matter how good the graphics are or how pretty the waterfall is if it doesnt have a quest mark on it they wont even see it...

History repeats itself all the time and I think its time for it to start all over... all this companies looking for the new thing to do and looking for the most innovative mmo in the marked that will steal wows community are failing and collapsing and the reason why its bc they delivering the same crap with a different smell... and even do it smells different when you look at it end up been the same crap.
I think SE has their answer too success in their past, in its history... not in wows history or any other new-gen MMO...
I think its better to have a stable community of 750k-1mill for 6-7+ years then 3-4 million for 2 months...
SE please stop trying to attract the unfriendly and game sucking community of WOW and the game jumpers... Building a stable community its the key to success and if not go look at your past... and help us kill Absolute virtue again ... Bring back the old community and watch how we will make the unfriendly and game suckers become part of the good community and stay in it for years...
I personally take FFXIV and SE's vision as a successful MMO as kick in the balls to all the FFXI players... hardcore and casuals that spent so much time, money and loyalty on the game...

PS: Please I dnt want to hear the "go play FFXI then" bc FFXI is not FFXI anymore...
and what ARR is showing is all the opposite of what a friendly and respectful community needs...

You want a player base of 750k+ ? Not gonna happen.

Most of the people who bought this game on release, left and ain't coming back. I'll bet the current player base is < 75k.

Even if 2.0 turns out to be great, I doubt the player base will pass 250k.

P.S. Here's some "history" for ya

FFXIB was realeased too soon
Lots of people said it was bad
Lots of reviewers said it was bad
Beta testers said it was bad
Se said FU we do thing our way our EGO surpasses all others