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  1. #271
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    So I have to ask, What does people want in FFXIV ARR then what's already presented? and I mean at Launch Don't look 5 years into the future, just what you expect to see at launch that isn't going to be at ARR.
    Really from what I understand most people want the game to have some depth, XIV was and still remains extremly shallow as it has a good deal of content but it's all surface paint. There are few long range goals to accomplish and not much to feel proud of in the game.

    Our characters have little to no customizabillity, battle classes still suffer from alot of the hemogony the old "Any skill can be used by any class", Dungeons encourage nothing but cookie cutter setups with speed-run requirements (Not in 2.0, but who knows what they might bring out to replace it) A overall lack of actually needing to communicate with players outside your cliques.

    There isn't much to do in the game besides log on, do your dungeon runs, craft, or gather and then leave promptly after. Nothing to engage you when you feel like just hanging out in the game world. The game world itself is amazingly shallow with transportation being next to free the overworld is overlooked and ignored, bassically it's a useless barrier as it stands now.

    You may as well have put a pop up menu (Like the market wards) when you exit town for all the good and use they put the overworld to. The world is devoid of danger or excitement, there is no reason to explore, no reason to adventure beyond your closest warp gate (That someone gave you).

    People are desperate to see 2.0 to satiate the need to know if we are going to have a game devoid of all this like we had in 1.0.

    The game needs depth, not just content for content sakes.

    I'll quote myself from a previous thread (One that shouldn't die!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx;860181
    [URL="http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/5512-Suggestion-Monster-Bestiary"
    Bestiary[/URL]
    Lore Tomes
    Gardening
    Card games
    Song creation
    Vanity slots
    Chocobo Raising


    A few things like this have been noted by the devs, but even so a few systems have allready been confirmed to be coming at a date after 2.0's launch. Stuff like removing animations and monster AI don't help flesh the world out either.

    Concentrating too much on the base of the game will leave you with a solid platform for sure...but if there is nothing on the platform it doesn't matter how sturdy it is if no one is there when you start building on that foundation.
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    Last edited by Jynx; 10-21-2012 at 04:31 AM.

  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, I understand that. What I'm trying to figure out is, what exactly do these hard to please people want in an MMO at Launch? (Talking about FFXIV ARR here) Aside from Questing, You got your Main storyline (splits into 3 parts), Primals battles (Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, Ifrit, Odin etc) Frontlines (PvP), a New World to explore, Grand Company Missions or anything GC related, Free Companies that have their own Mission/Quests tied to them (assuming). "Maybe" Crystal Tower. A lot to look forward to. Yet still some people want more out of this MMO then we already know currently.
    You forgot leveling dungeons, like this one
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  3. #273
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You forgot leveling dungeons, like this one
    hehe, yeah just saying things off the top of my head teehee .
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    You forgot leveling dungeons, like this one
    Why would I wanna level up in a solitude area? with a few other people, without ever running into other groups, seriously might as well play vindictus(which I do).
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  5. #275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yeah, I understand that. What I'm trying to figure out is, what exactly do these hard to please people want in an MMO at Launch? (Talking about FFXIV ARR here) Aside from Questing, You got your Main storyline (splits into 3 parts), Primals battles (Garuda, Titan, Leviathan, Ifrit, Odin etc) Frontlines (PvP), a New World to explore, Grand Company Missions or anything GC related, Free Companies that have their own Mission/Quests tied to them (assuming). "Maybe" Crystal Tower. A lot to look forward to. Yet still some people want more out of this MMO then we already know currently.

    So I have to ask, What does people want in FFXIV ARR then what's already presented? and I mean at Launch Don't look 5 years into the future, just what you expect to see at launch that isn't going to be at ARR.

    Edit: It's a heck of alot more than what we got at FFXIV 1.0 Launch that's for sure.
    That's certainly a great lineup. If they take care of new players until they're able to get into most of those then the game will be solid.

    EDIT: I kind of wish I could go back in time and stop myself from buying 1.0 just so I could come into ARR and experience it all from beginning to end for the first time. If I didn't have so many friends (and family) in the game already I'd consider rerolling on a new server :P
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    Last edited by Corleone; 10-21-2012 at 04:58 AM.

  6. #276
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    The "Zero Punctuation" effect is alive and well on the lodestone forums
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by DubstepNinja View Post
    The "Zero Punctuation" effect is alive and well on the lodestone forums
    You forgot a period. :P
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  8. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Why would I wanna level up in a solitude area? with a few other people, without ever running into other groups, seriously might as well play vindictus(which I do).
    Actually, that was the reason I didn't play it... or GW's PvE, I play MMOs to meet new people and so far most of those meetings were by running around the game world and bumping into them, maybe partying, helping them out or getting help myself.

    Instances are nice to not having to fight for a monster or a drop, but it kills a lot of fun not seeing the other people. Open instanced leve content was a stab in the right direction, imho. This way you could still see people and help them out, but could not steal their mobs/drops.

    Yes, it got messy with a lot of parties arriving at one spot, especially with the clunky targeting system, but that's fixable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    You forgot a period. :P
    Oh I should qualify

    Zero Punctuation

    Always think about this when I read some of the posts on here
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    Quote Originally Posted by DubstepNinja View Post
    Oh I should qualify

    Zero Punctuation

    Always think about this when I read some of the posts on here
    Wow that guy is good.
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