SE stop doing the "norm"

[Andrien]

Tonkra, they just want to stick with what didn't work from launch. It is a futile attempt trying to introduce something more accessible to them because anything less flop than ffxiv from launch is a no no for them. hence all this doom and gloom threads from the same guy.

I just want to say to you guys that you can't judge a game without playing it. Please tell me how you can @_@?

[NationOfZealots]

TLDR and not dredging anything thats already been said but if I waited for the re-release I'd be totally pissed about all the missed achievements (a MMO staple?) on top of the speculation of where the game is going wouldn't even matter by that point, I'd haved skipped XIV like I did XI eos!

^^Your marketing right thurr

[RoxyLalonde]

quest...markers... have been around for ever.

[Gokulo]

Rift is not doing any of the stuff you mentioned, instead it's getting constant big updates. Additionally, it's releasing a huge-ass expansion next month. Is that what a failing game looks like?

[RoxyLalonde]

Rift is not doing any of the stuff you mentioned, instead it's getting constant big updates. Additionally, it's releasing a huge-ass expansion next month. Is that what a failing game looks like?

I'd like to direct you to our current situation in XIV yes... that is what a failing game looks like.

[Dannythm]

Rift is not doing any of the stuff you mentioned, instead it's getting constant big updates. Additionally, it's releasing a huge-ass expansion next month. Is that what a failing game looks like?

WoW didn't add new content for 9 months and still kept 9 million players. Also this:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/l...erges-Incoming

[Gokulo]

WoW is an anomaly, not a standard. People should stop acting as if other games should be able to achieve similar results since that's not possible.

[Elexia]

WoW is an anomaly, not a standard. People should stop acting as if other games should be able to achieve similar results since that's not possible.

You're incorrect. It's DEVELOPERS that need to stop thinking this.

[Ingolf]

Also: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...edItNowItSucks

"The error here is the automatic assumption that just because something is similar, it can't have any value on its own merits. If everything that was derivative was that bad, it wouldn't be done so much. Some can actually be quite good on their own. And enough followers can even make From Clones to Genre.

This assumption can be infuriating to creators of products that are similar to products being designed simultaneously. Your options are to either reduce the quality of your work in order to get it out first, or be written off as a cheap imitation of your competitor's product (which they probably watered down to beat you out of the gate). Many "ripoffs" were in fact in development at the same time, but due to the development window for most modern media, could be released months or even years apart. This can also make the fans of the more "popular" feature look really hypocritical if the alleged victim of ripoffs wasn't all that original to begin with."

The last paragraph isn't referencing XIV, but it's a good thing to keep in mind if you scream clone at everything.

[AntonyB]

Not sure why people keep spewing up clone, there is only so many things that you can do really...

Level up, kill mobs, do dungeons, kill NMs, do quests, story etc etc.

Yes everything is similar because this is an MMORPG, it's like saying every FPS every is a clone of -insert 1st ever FPS here- (Probs a bad example but you get the point). They are similar because you need to have these aspects in a MMORPG, if you think these aspects make every MMO a WoW clone then just lol at you. Would like to see you play an MMO with all these said points removed, because it wouldn't be very fun at all..