think he talking bout gw2, but that game sucks. all mmo's have sucked and probably most players don't play for longer then 6months. so ffxiv isn't in huge trouble if people wander off for awhile. they will come back. no mmo truely satisfies any real mmo'er these days. as for casual, that is what they are, they will come back cause there a.d.d keeps em from staying in one place for long.