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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I wonder if they get upset at google when you print out directions from pont A to point B and it takes you longer than google's "estimated travel time" predicts...
    Completely unrelated, at least use something that are close to the same thing. Also:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post775593

    This point exactly toward the alpha should have started by now, but as we also know we were told Alpha would begin after the worlds go down through a Japanese magazine (either 4gamer or gamewatch)..so if the original roadmap and yoshida himself state "end of sept or early oct" for alpha but then we start getting every other kind of dates thrown around later (alpha in november?), this is when SE needs to clarify or just not say anything at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Where exactly is the hypocricy in my quote? Please elaborate...



    Lol these people think "roadmaps" are absolute time stamps when in reality they are predictions of the "estimated time of arrival".

    I wonder if they get upset at google when you print out directions from pont A to point B and it takes you longer than google's "estimated travel time" predicts...
    Yeah I know, Let ARR come out .. when it comes out. Does it really bother people that you don't have a time "right this moment". I'm enjoying life as it comes, and when I get a "Promised date" then I will be excited when it comes. When they say predicted dates, most people seem to take it as "true dates" which is far from the truth. Sometimes their predicted dates come to fruition, but not all the time, same thing goes with any other companies, they all put the:

    *The aforementioned dates are subject to change.
    Or sometime along those lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    No one has said anything about 3-4 month downtime. This is purely player speculation and negativity at work.

    SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime. I have a very hard time believing they would push this back beyond winter break.

    Just to prove my point since you are unable to prove yours:

    Upcoming Patch Schedule & Version 2.0 Details

    Page 15 (last page) "Comprehensive Roadmap":



    tralalalala...
    So basically you've linked to proof that its launching after Jan 2013.... here is the exact quote from that document:

    ・Post-January 2013 – Version 2.0 client (PC and PlayStation®3 system) goes on sale


    So again, I ask where your source is that launch is going to happen in Nov/Dec???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    So basically you've linked to proof that its launching after Jan 2013.... here is the exact quote from that document:

    ・Post-January 2013 – Version 2.0 client (PC and PlayStation®3 system) goes on sale
    - Free trial period ends
    That's basically whats going to happen, Having only 1 month of beta is suicide :P. That's why it's on the road map, except we don;t know when "after" Jan 2013 the game will launch. after January the road map is useless to follow (unless they make a new one :P).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    (unless they make a new one :P).
    This is exactly what they're supposed to do especially if dates are getting off, even so much as updating older roadmaps. They had no trouble doing this for FFXI lol, even the ToAU timeline was followed very closely, only exceptions were major systems that got pushed back due to "balance issues".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Completely unrelated, at least use something that are close to the same thing. Also:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post775593

    This point exactly toward the alpha should have started by now, but as we also know we were told Alpha would begin after the worlds go down through a Japanese magazine (either 4gamer or gamewatch)..so if the original roadmap and yoshida himself state "end of sept or early oct" for alpha but then we start getting every other kind of dates thrown around later (alpha in november?), this is when SE needs to clarify or just not say anything at all.
    Let me quote thy post:

    Good morning!

    Even though a number of specifics with regards to the beta-test are not yet decided, I want to give you some info up-front so that you can calm down a little.

    Firstly: There will be a PC-beta and we apologise if the road-map had caused any confusion. (Some people were asking if the beta was only for PS3.)

    Currently, we are planning to begin the beta test for FINAL FASTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn in November.

    Naturally, we will do our best to keep to this timetable in the roadmap, but as we have said in the past, the quality of the game is our highest priority. To ensure this level of quality, it may be that we have to deviate from the timetable occasionally. However currently, there is not need for concern, because everything up to this point has been going to plan.


    I hope I was able to answer your questions and once again apologise if our roadmap had caused confusion. If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer them.
    Context clues are in red for you. Should be obvious they are using tentative terms in almost every sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    So basically you've linked to proof that its launching after Jan 2013.... here is the exact quote from that document:

    ・Post-January 2013 – Version 2.0 client (PC and PlayStation®3 system) goes on sale


    So again, I ask where your source is that launch is going to happen in Nov/Dec???
    I NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE LAUNCHED IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALL I WROTE WAS THAT NOV AND DEC REPRESENT TWO MONTHS OF DOWNTIME BEFORE THE LAUNCH INSTEAD OF THE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS U FOOLS KEEP PREDICTING SHEESH LEARN TO FKN READ NOOB GTFO

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    No one has said anything about 3-4 month downtime. This is purely player speculation and negativity at work.

    SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime.


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    Last edited by Matsume; 10-17-2012 at 11:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Let me quote thy post:
    However currently, there is not need for concern, because everything up to this point has been going to plan.
    Well now that that is settled. Kind of funny how you ignore the very next sentence lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE LAUNCHED IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALL I WROTE WAS THAT NOV AND DEC REPRESENT TWO MONTHS OF DOWNTIME BEFORE THE LAUNCH INSTEAD OF THE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS U FOOLS KEEP PREDICTING SHEESH LEARN TO FKN READ NOOB GTFO
    The irony of this whole situation is people who say 4-5 months of downtime are the ones actually being realistic, the ones you're telling to "GTFO".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well now that that is settled. Kind of funny how you ignore the very next sentence lol.
    That post is two months old. Kind of funny how you ignore that fact.

    In case you don't understand, since then "everything" might not be "going accroding to plan".

    Oh, you still called me a hypocrite without backing it up.
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    We expect these tasks to be complete by the third quarter of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2013.
    we will begin work on the worldless party matching system
    as well as the porting of all current content data and player
    character data.
    http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Outline_EN.pdf

    "We Expect" by March 31st, 2013 that the above tasks to be completed then.

    This should give a ballpark date as to when it's coming, and it's not anytime soon. but Beta is coming soon though. So look forward to that! I know I am!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime.
    LOL. Ok I see what you were trying to say.... sort of. You're saying the game will only be down for Nov and Dec. So let's split the difference. If Open beta is starting in January and the roadmap says client 2.0 on sale POST-JANUARY. Then I think we can agree that this will be a minimum of 3 months downtime. That is not speculation.

    Being super optimistic, and just going by what SE has said, there is a small possibility that 2.0 could launch Feb 1st. But, and this is not negativity, I happen to think it will be yet another month. Probably March sometime. Maybe April. So I think 4 months of downtime is safe conservative estimate.
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