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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I wonder if they get upset at google when you print out directions from pont A to point B and it takes you longer than google's "estimated travel time" predicts...
    Completely unrelated, at least use something that are close to the same thing. Also:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post775593

    This point exactly toward the alpha should have started by now, but as we also know we were told Alpha would begin after the worlds go down through a Japanese magazine (either 4gamer or gamewatch)..so if the original roadmap and yoshida himself state "end of sept or early oct" for alpha but then we start getting every other kind of dates thrown around later (alpha in november?), this is when SE needs to clarify or just not say anything at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Completely unrelated, at least use something that are close to the same thing. Also:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post775593

    This point exactly toward the alpha should have started by now, but as we also know we were told Alpha would begin after the worlds go down through a Japanese magazine (either 4gamer or gamewatch)..so if the original roadmap and yoshida himself state "end of sept or early oct" for alpha but then we start getting every other kind of dates thrown around later (alpha in november?), this is when SE needs to clarify or just not say anything at all.
    Let me quote thy post:

    Good morning!

    Even though a number of specifics with regards to the beta-test are not yet decided, I want to give you some info up-front so that you can calm down a little.

    Firstly: There will be a PC-beta and we apologise if the road-map had caused any confusion. (Some people were asking if the beta was only for PS3.)

    Currently, we are planning to begin the beta test for FINAL FASTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn in November.

    Naturally, we will do our best to keep to this timetable in the roadmap, but as we have said in the past, the quality of the game is our highest priority. To ensure this level of quality, it may be that we have to deviate from the timetable occasionally. However currently, there is not need for concern, because everything up to this point has been going to plan.


    I hope I was able to answer your questions and once again apologise if our roadmap had caused confusion. If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer them.
    Context clues are in red for you. Should be obvious they are using tentative terms in almost every sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    So basically you've linked to proof that its launching after Jan 2013.... here is the exact quote from that document:

    ・Post-January 2013 – Version 2.0 client (PC and PlayStation®3 system) goes on sale


    So again, I ask where your source is that launch is going to happen in Nov/Dec???
    I NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE LAUNCHED IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALL I WROTE WAS THAT NOV AND DEC REPRESENT TWO MONTHS OF DOWNTIME BEFORE THE LAUNCH INSTEAD OF THE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS U FOOLS KEEP PREDICTING SHEESH LEARN TO FKN READ NOOB GTFO

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    No one has said anything about 3-4 month downtime. This is purely player speculation and negativity at work.

    SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Let me quote thy post:
    However currently, there is not need for concern, because everything up to this point has been going to plan.
    Well now that that is settled. Kind of funny how you ignore the very next sentence lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    I NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE LAUNCHED IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALL I WROTE WAS THAT NOV AND DEC REPRESENT TWO MONTHS OF DOWNTIME BEFORE THE LAUNCH INSTEAD OF THE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS U FOOLS KEEP PREDICTING SHEESH LEARN TO FKN READ NOOB GTFO
    The irony of this whole situation is people who say 4-5 months of downtime are the ones actually being realistic, the ones you're telling to "GTFO".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well now that that is settled. Kind of funny how you ignore the very next sentence lol.
    That post is two months old. Kind of funny how you ignore that fact.

    In case you don't understand, since then "everything" might not be "going accroding to plan".

    Oh, you still called me a hypocrite without backing it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime.
    LOL. Ok I see what you were trying to say.... sort of. You're saying the game will only be down for Nov and Dec. So let's split the difference. If Open beta is starting in January and the roadmap says client 2.0 on sale POST-JANUARY. Then I think we can agree that this will be a minimum of 3 months downtime. That is not speculation.

    Being super optimistic, and just going by what SE has said, there is a small possibility that 2.0 could launch Feb 1st. But, and this is not negativity, I happen to think it will be yet another month. Probably March sometime. Maybe April. So I think 4 months of downtime is safe conservative estimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    LOL. Ok I see what you were trying to say.... sort of. You're saying the game will only be down for Nov and Dec. So let's split the difference. If Open beta is starting in January and the roadmap says client 2.0 on sale POST-JANUARY. Then I think we can agree that this will be a minimum of 3 months downtime. That is not speculation.

    Being super optimistic, and just going by what SE has said, there is a small possibility that 2.0 could launch Feb 1st. But, and this is not negativity, I happen to think it will be yet another month. Probably March sometime. Maybe April. So I think 4 months of downtime is safe conservative estimate.
    1) Who ever said open beta would be starting in January? You just formulated a simple "If, Then" sentence and calculated 1+1+1 = 3. GENIUS! Guess what? If Servers go down November 1st and ARR doesn't launch til June 1st, then you would have to wait 6 months! OMG I never could have figured that out without your help.

    You are right, this is not speculation, it's called logic and math. However, your thoughts on when the launch will be is speculation no matter which way you cut it. No one knows, not even SE, when the game will be ready to launch. Pretending otherwise is speculation.

    2) Going by what SE hopes and would like to see, ARR could launch January 1st, however unlikely the scenario, the possibility exists! The probability might be greater that SE wil launch ARR in february but this again is pure speculation. This is what you don't understand:

    Speculation does no one any good


    You can think that you are being ultra conservative in yor estimates but at the end of the day nobody gives a rat's tail when you think it will come out because it wont change the fact that the game will come out when SE is ready to launch the damn thing.

    But you would rather fill up thread after thread with speculative nonsense like "i think wit will launch in X months because of Y reasons", whereas I am only here to present the facts as they have been presented to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    1) Who ever said open beta would be starting in January? You just formulated a simple "If, Then" sentence and calculated 1+1+1 = 3. GENIUS! Guess what? If Servers go down November 1st and ARR doesn't launch til June 1st, then you would have to wait 6 months! OMG I never could have figured that out without your help.
    /facepalm

    Yoshida said.

    Q: When will Final Fantasy XIV 2.0 launch?
    A: I expect the first Closed Beta for the Japan and International servers to be held end September or early October, entering Closed Beta 2 this winter and Open Beta in January next year. We will be talking to Shanda Games about the China server, with features such as PvP, blocking 3rd party programs and localization, hence the China server will launch later.


    nice rant btw. the bigger the rant, the harder the fail.
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