Server shut down

[Matsume]

I just dont understand why we now need 3 or 4 months of no game to play. I'm fine with a delay of launch. I want them to do whatever it takes to make it perfect, but they should delay the server shut down too, so we can keep playing.

No one has said anything about 3-4 month downtime. This is purely player speculation and negativity at work.

SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime. I have a very hard time believing they would push this back beyond winter break.

Just goes to show how little faith the forum going player base has in SE.

[Mamba]

Just goes to show how little faith the forum going player base has in SE.

Can you blame them (us)?
Some of us has been here since the 1st alpha test... which was when?

[Elexia]

Just goes to show how little faith the forum going player base has in SE.

Having faith in SE: "Ok guys, here's the alpha test as promised. It will begin September 25th for the Japanese stress test then becomes open to everyone on October 6th. Alright! Now that that is over, beta begins November 15th just as promised."

^ SE keeping their word and sticking to schedule is what gives players faith. It's not negativity at work nor is it people just being impatient, everything SE has said and done lately has been so far off base they may as well not say anything at all.

SE: "Information about ARR will come out all summer long!"
Translation: "You'll get bits and pieces of information sparsely throughout the summer."
SE: "You're in for a flood of information about ARR starting with Gamescom."
Translation: "You'll get the same information repeated to you multiple times through interviews."

Honestly, as much faith as you want to put into SE you have to admit, everything has been delayed and extended, remember how they said it will take a month of downtime to transition over to ARR while we're testing with new accounts?

[Matsume]

Having faith in SE: "Ok guys, here's the alpha test as promised. It will begin September 25th for the Japanese stress test then becomes open to everyone on October 6th. Alright! Now that that is over, beta begins November 15th just as promised."

^ SE keeping their word and sticking to schedule is what gives players faith. It's not negativity at work nor is it people just being impatient, everything SE has said and done lately has been so far off base they may as well not say anything at all.

SE: "Information about ARR will come out all summer long!"
Translation: "You'll get bits and pieces of information sparsely throughout the summer."
SE: "You're in for a flood of information about ARR starting with Gamescom."
Translation: "You'll get the same information repeated to you multiple times through interviews."

Honestly, as much faith as you want to put into SE you have to admit, everything has been delayed and extended, remember how they said it will take a month of downtime to transition over to ARR while we're testing with new accounts?

I will admit that there have been uncountable delays and extensions. However, I will also point out that nothing SE says is set in stone and believing otherwise is proof of your naieveté. Most of SE's posts in regards future dates are more often than not projections shrouded in vague verbiage such as "we would like to launch by...." or "we hope it will be ready by" and "if all goes according to plan we will implement..." or "ideally...".

There are very little hard and fast dates in regards the implementation of content in development. Rarely will you find such precise terms as "we promise that by X date Y event will be implemented" or "we are certain that the game will be ready by..." and "such and such will be implemented by..."

When you say "Ok guys, here's the alpha test as promised. It will begin September 25th for the Japanese stress test then becomes open to everyone on October 6th. Alright! Now that that is over, beta begins November 15th just as promised." I respond with: show me a quote in which SE uses the term "promise" in regards the release of alpha and beta test.

The point is SE hasn't decieved you, but rather that you have decieved yourselves by misinterpreting SE's choice of words. Your assumptions and expectations in the fulfillment of false prromises are solely to blame. If you take everything SE has to say inregards the timing of events with a grain of salt and look at it from the perspective that nothing is set in stone you wouldn't dissapoint yourselves so often. What's worse is to place that dssapointment on others when it is entirely within ones own control.

It has been reported all over the place and on the forums that ARR is NOT launching until after JANUARY 2013. Not sure where you are getting this bogus information as I can guarantee you there is NO source detailing a Nov/Dec launch.

In fact, the roadmap clearly states the Open beta starts in January. So how could they launch while the game is still in beta???? This is not speculation.

November and December represent the two month long downtime before the anticipated launch in january for the New Year. How you are unable to interpret that I know not other than to assume you are dense...

[Elexia]

Just to prove my point since you are unable to prove yours:

Upcoming Patch Schedule & Version 2.0 Details

Page 15 (last page) "Comprehensive Roadmap":



tralalalala...

They are subject to change and if they knew they wouldn't make the time frame, they should have formally announced a lot sooner that the time frames are off or updated the PDFs to reflect that, but what's funny about all this is you saying this:

November and December represent the two month long downtime before the anticipated launch in january for the New Year. How you are unable to interpret that I know not other than to assume you are dense...

This kind of makes you a hypocrite.

[Starlord]

They are subject to change and if they knew they wouldn't make the time frame, they should have formally announced a lot sooner that the time frames are off or updated the PDFs to reflect that, but what's funny about all this is you saying this:




This kind of makes you a hypocrite.

As Capt. Barbosa would say: They are more like.. Guidelines to the actual rule!

[Matsume]

They are subject to change and if they knew they wouldn't make the time frame, they should have formally announced a lot sooner that the time frames are off or updated the PDFs to reflect that, but what's funny about all this is you saying this:



This kind of makes you a hypocrite.

Where exactly is the hypocricy in my quote? Please elaborate...

As Capt. Barbosa would say: They are more like.. Guidelines to the actual rule!

Lol these people think "roadmaps" are absolute time stamps when in reality they are predictions of the "estimated time of arrival".

I wonder if they get upset at google when you print out directions from pont A to point B and it takes you longer than google's "estimated travel time" predicts...

[Elexia]

I wonder if they get upset at google when you print out directions from pont A to point B and it takes you longer than google's "estimated travel time" predicts...

Completely unrelated, at least use something that are close to the same thing. Also:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post775593

This point exactly toward the alpha should have started by now, but as we also know we were told Alpha would begin after the worlds go down through a Japanese magazine (either 4gamer or gamewatch)..so if the original roadmap and yoshida himself state "end of sept or early oct" for alpha but then we start getting every other kind of dates thrown around later (alpha in november?), this is when SE needs to clarify or just not say anything at all.

[Matsume]

Completely unrelated, at least use something that are close to the same thing. Also:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post775593

This point exactly toward the alpha should have started by now, but as we also know we were told Alpha would begin after the worlds go down through a Japanese magazine (either 4gamer or gamewatch)..so if the original roadmap and yoshida himself state "end of sept or early oct" for alpha but then we start getting every other kind of dates thrown around later (alpha in november?), this is when SE needs to clarify or just not say anything at all.

Let me quote thy post:

Good morning!

Even though a number of specifics with regards to the beta-test are not yet decided, I want to give you some info up-front so that you can calm down a little.

Firstly: There will be a PC-beta and we apologise if the road-map had caused any confusion. (Some people were asking if the beta was only for PS3.)

Currently, we are planning to begin the beta test for FINAL FASTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn in November.

Naturally, we will do our best to keep to this timetable in the roadmap, but as we have said in the past, the quality of the game is our highest priority. To ensure this level of quality, it may be that we have to deviate from the timetable occasionally. However currently, there is not need for concern, because everything up to this point has been going to plan.


I hope I was able to answer your questions and once again apologise if our roadmap had caused confusion. If you have further questions, I will do my best to answer them.

Context clues are in red for you. Should be obvious they are using tentative terms in almost every sentence.

So basically you've linked to proof that its launching after Jan 2013.... here is the exact quote from that document:

・Post-January 2013 – Version 2.0 client (PC and PlayStation®3 system) goes on sale


So again, I ask where your source is that launch is going to happen in Nov/Dec???

I NEVER SAID IT WOULD BE LAUNCHED IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALL I WROTE WAS THAT NOV AND DEC REPRESENT TWO MONTHS OF DOWNTIME BEFORE THE LAUNCH INSTEAD OF THE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS U FOOLS KEEP PREDICTING SHEESH LEARN TO FKN READ NOOB GTFO

No one has said anything about 3-4 month downtime. This is purely player speculation and negativity at work.

SE has said that they envisage the launch of ARR for the New Year. As in November and December - that's two months downtime.

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[Starlord]

Where exactly is the hypocricy in my quote? Please elaborate...



Lol these people think "roadmaps" are absolute time stamps when in reality they are predictions of the "estimated time of arrival".

I wonder if they get upset at google when you print out directions from pont A to point B and it takes you longer than google's "estimated travel time" predicts...

Yeah I know, Let ARR come out .. when it comes out. Does it really bother people that you don't have a time "right this moment". I'm enjoying life as it comes, and when I get a "Promised date" then I will be excited when it comes. When they say predicted dates, most people seem to take it as "true dates" which is far from the truth. Sometimes their predicted dates come to fruition, but not all the time, same thing goes with any other companies, they all put the:

*The aforementioned dates are subject to change.

Or sometime along those lines.