FFXIVARR Lower stats for token items

[darkstarpoet1]

Again this is it. People don't want stuff handed to them. They just want a bit of reassurance that they will get what they want eventually and can visibly see themselves getting closer and closer to obtaining what they want one way or another.

How many thfs spent years doing dyna and never saw thf gloves or rdms with there hats for example. people want to be able to see progress on the items they want. which is what every token topic for the last 2 years has been about. a sense of progress. not hand outs.

but that is what i mean. if they want to have lower tier versions of the best gear they can get by tokens then that is fine, but i feel there should be a way to work towards the high end gear as well. say we get 1 token per player per run then make the lower tier gear take 20 tokens to get the lower tier version of the gear with like 50% of the high end stats, but make people be able to advance towards the high end even though it may cost 200 tokens to get the high end gear. sure it may take 200 runs to get the piece you really want or you could get it way before then on the drops, but if not you could feel you were making progress even if it took alot of effort to get.

@Bunny Boo

normal boss drops 1 rare and 1 rare token for each party member
last boss drops 3 rare items and 1 rare token for each party member

i don't think you really know what rare items are. they are rare because they don't drop often and not everyone has them.

[sharazisspecial]

i don't think you really know what rare items are. they are rare because they don't drop often and not everyone has them.

I used normal , rare , epic as tier list of gear quality.
Normal -average and entry level
rare-mid level- above average
epic-exclusive and very rare.

I prefer items be earned by skill not by being lucky by rng . Or repeating an easy instance 1000x times. But it does seeem that ffxi/current ffxiv fans are content with doing that.

I personally do not understand why people want items to have terrible drop rates rather have a skill level requirements instead. Because only the elite skill level should the best gear rather then gil buyers or encouraging people to waste their lives away grinding to beat that 0.01% drop rate.

When i see someone with armor they got from getting lucky i dont really care. They wasted xxx hours just grinding. Honestly i feel sorry them. They could be terrible players who got lucky.

But when i see someone who has exclusive armor from doing hard modes/high ranked pvp reward i have more respect for them because they have a high skill level and would be a like them to be in my group.

In ffxi i had alot of useless party members with really good gear probally obtained from skilless grinding/buying gil

I am one of those players that doesnt care much about having superior gear to everyone else. I just prefer not grinding . I would like in mmo to have my skill tested rather then waste my time grinding.

whats really the difference between a Ridil obtained by 0.01% drop versus making ridil only availible if you beat a really hard hardmode fight .Both would be just as rare.

[Thunderz]

I used normal , rare , epic as tier list of gear quality.
Normal -average and entry level
rare-mid level- above average
epic-exclusive and very rare.

I prefer items be earned by skill not by being lucky by rng . Or repeating an easy instance 1000x times. But it does seeem that ffxi/current ffxiv fans are content with doing that.

I personally do not understand why people want items to have terrible drop rates rather have a skill level requirements instead. Because only the elite skill level should the best gear rather then gil buyers or encouraging people to waste their lives away grinding to beat that 0.01% drop rate.

When i see someone with armor they got from getting lucky i dont really care. They wasted xxx hours just grinding. Honestly i feel sorry them. They could be terrible players who got lucky.

But when i see someone who has exclusive armor from doing hard modes/high ranked pvp reward i have more respect for them because they have a high skill level and would be a like them to be in my group.

In ffxi i had alot of useless party members with really good gear probally obtained from skilless grinding/buying gil

I am one of those players that doesnt care much about having superior gear to everyone else. I just prefer not grinding . I would like in mmo to have my skill tested rather then waste my time grinding.

welcome to the world of MMO's

where everything is.... well.. considered grinding

Even if they made it into a progress thing to get items it would be considered "a grind" to obtain all the tokens to purchase it

people will bitch and moan about every kind of system tbh

but lets not start complaining about grinding in a MMO thats just silly now

-every MMO has grind don't kid yourself -