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    serendipity's Avatar
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    Auction Houses vs. Market Wards

    I am guessing that 2.0 won't have an auction house. I have been following along with the updates about this new version of FFXIV but i haven't come across anything about how this new system, if any will work. Correct me if I am wrong, (and i hope that i am wrong) there will be something similar to what we have now.

    From what i can see, this area of commerce is full of lag. It doesn't seem like a very efficient way to broker merchandise, regardless of the price history tweaks SE can add. It will be a step back developmentally from the old team who made this game that was kept for no apparent reason.

    It can be said about the Auction House that "It's been done," by tons of other MMOs and is unoriginal. In my opinion you see it in other games because it works, it's efficient, and more than likely easy to implement (free games have them, its not like you need a programming genius to set up an Auction House).

    Pros and Cons-wise, i just can't say there is anything good about having laggy market wards, but I'm sure there are some bias individuals out there who can make up reasons why its tolerable.

    My suggestion:
    implement an Auction House, like this post if you think its a better option then another Market Ward.
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    i dont get it what is wrong with the current Market Wards, what is it that is so iirk to you? It already has been cut down a lot to match as a Auction House.

    What the hell is wrong with you people... .


    What the hell is the difference now?

    oh btw... save it for beta plzz.
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    Azury Ariella
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    Information is key to a well functioning economy.
    Auction houses lead to efficient trade whereas market wards don't

    So having Auction houses means everybody will be able to have more, and generate more utility (happiness), on average

    Thus as the point of an MMO is to create happiness and keep its players around, AH's are the best option between the two.
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    imo, the XI Auction House was superior to the WoW one (and all similar AHs). It was one of the big attractions for me to that game.

    It's a shame that you had to rely on ffxiah.com to utilise it properly, and also awful that only a recent quantity of transactions was displayed instead of being time-based, which enabled price-fixing scams.

    Looking forward to the redesign of the Market Wards, but I do feel that the original reason for them is purely so that FFXIV is 'different' to other MMOs.
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    Ohhhh myyyyy goshhhhhh people! This topic is old and we still don't have any specific details about how the markets will work in 2.0! Sheesh. Just wait.
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    I don't really have a problem with the Market Ward system. As long as in 2.0 we're allowed to send retainers to ANY ward at ANY time, get more filter options (which was confirmed), and all wards are unified (also confirmed), then I have no problem with the new system. Though it would be nice to get notifications when things get sold and if our retainers were nice enough to mail our gil to our mailbox..I'd be willing to pay for postage. I might even buy my retainer a nice hat.
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    I said it before and I'll say it again. Market wards = 10 clicks just get put an item for sell:

    -Click on menu to go into the market wards
    -Choose which market ward your retainer is (if both your retainers are in the same ward, then good for you) if not you have to repeat this step to go to another ward were your 2nd retainer is.
    -Wait for loading
    -Click on retainer
    -Click on exchange items
    -Click on item you want to transfer from your inventory to the retainer inventory
    -Get out of the exchange menu
    -Now click on check bazaar menu
    -Scroll through inventory to find item
    -Click on item
    -Click on quantity of items you want to sell
    -Click on price you want to sell item for
    -Click submit

    AH = about 5 at most, if not less steps, to sell an item.

    and to add insult to injury...

    To check price trends so you know what price you will have to use to sell an item = a trip back and forward from market ward door to your retainer. AH = 1 window to see everything.
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    Last edited by HamHam; 10-06-2012 at 03:01 AM.

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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Quote Originally Posted by HamHam View Post
    I said it before and I'll say it again. Market wards = 10 clicks just get put an item for sell:

    -Click on menu to go into the market wards
    -Choose which market ward your retainer is (if both your retainers are in the same ward, then good for you) if not you have to repeat this step to go to another ward were your 2nd retainer is.
    -Wait for loading
    -Click on retainer
    -Click on exchange items
    -Click on item you want to transfer from your inventory to the retainer inventory
    -Get out of the exchange menu
    -Now click on check bazaar menu
    -Scroll through inventory to find item
    -Click on item
    -Click on quantity of items you want to sell
    -Click on price you want to sell item for
    -Click submit

    AH = about 5 at most, if not less steps, to sell an item.

    and to add insult to injury...

    To check price trends so you know what price you will have to use to sell an item = a trip back and forward from market ward door to your retainer. AH = 1 window to see everything.

    With the recent news that the MW's will no longer be instanced, I think the entire process will be streamlined quite a bit.

    My guess is that we will have something like counters for each item category. You browse for what you are looking for and the retainer shows up and sells it to you (and maybe asks if you want to see anything else they are carrying).

    I wonder if booth rentals will remain.... If so, they will likely be much more visible and prestigious than they are now.
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    I really hope to see an in-depth explanation about how the new market system will work before beta. :/
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    Instead of calling them either Auction houses or market wards, let's just have a bulletin board with everything on it!

    Updates, special quest, classifieds, help wanted Ads. You know, stuff like IRL.

    My conditions are like this... I want to take my retainer out of the building and put her money-maker on the streets or in the field or at camp. Make her move around at-least(well, not actually move, just dance in place) :P
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