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  1. #31
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    Avatar von Wilksha
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    Rosetta Rouge
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    Balmung
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    Hermetiker Lv 70
    When it was mentioned about animations of a spell changing based on level, the first thing that popped to to mind was Square Soft's "Secret of Mana." As you made your spell stronger over usage the spell got stronger and the spell animation changed, even if most of the time it was just a larger spell animation. I'd like to see a "tiered" animation if they no longer use a large repertoire of spells. In FFXI I often casted lower tiered spells before higher ones just to see the change in animations. Using the same spells get a little boring if it's always the same. As for animations to spells, I preferred FFXI spell animations over our current ones. Quake 2, Blizzard 5, Freeze, Tornado 2, Firaga 3 and 4 are among my fav spell animations.
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  2. #32
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    Zitat Zitat von Renala Beitrag anzeigen
    I'm to tired/waking up to read threw this all, but I think before worrying about tiered spells, we need to worry about getting all the Elements back. Wheres water? (And astral/umbral, if we'll have those again)
    They overcomplicated it in XIv. Astral/Umbral is a make up of certain spells, they aren't separate elements technically. Only reason enemies still cast certain ones is because they never update their spell lists.
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  3. #33
    Player Avatar von Andrien
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    Andrien Bellcross
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturg Lv 50
    I think its to soon for tiers since highest level cap is Lv50. I also think the spells will definitely get stronger, and I'd like the animation to change as you level up.
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  4. #34
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    Hanabira Asashi
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    Hyperion
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    it would be a cool idea, kind of like star ocean where you use the ability x amount of times and the animation gets more badass
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  5. #35
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    Zitat Zitat von Hanabira Beitrag anzeigen
    it would be a cool idea, kind of like star ocean where you use the ability x amount of times and the animation gets more badass
    That's basically borrowed from Seiken Densetsu 2 and I think was done slightly better in some ways but yeah.
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  6. #36
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    Zitat Zitat von Arkine Beitrag anzeigen


    Same spell.

    Makes perfect sense that a spell cast by a veteran wizard will be much more grand than one cast by a novice.
    No, he doesn't just want that. What you pictured, I'm fine with- I'd like that. What he wants is seperate spells for each tier as FFXI.

    That's basically borrowed from Seiken Densetsu 2 and I think was done slightly better in some ways but yeah.
    Just call it Secret of Mana so people know what you're talking about.
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  7. #37
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    Avatar von Tiberious
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    Affidon Kepler
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I miss the spells in FFXI. Castin drain or warp or stonega was always a treat for the eyes.
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  8. #38
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    Avatar von tymora
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturg Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Jynx Beitrag anzeigen
    If you were a good mage? Often.
    Jynx is right. We use lower tiers when
    1) We're near hate cap
    2) Mob only needs a low level nuke to die - MP conservation
    3) Doing a double Magic Burst.
    4) Timers

    So yes, quite often.
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  9. #39
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    Avatar von Tonkra
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    Quichy Sturmbruch
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturg Lv 59
    Zitat Zitat von Alhanelem Beitrag anzeigen
    No, he doesn't just want that. What you pictured, I'm fine with- I'd like that. What he wants is seperate spells for each tier as FFXI.
    No i dont.. you misunderstood me. he is right. one skill that evolves when it comes to more impressive animations.
    and that it would named differently each level stage .. for example 1-20 lv -> Aero I

    but it still remains one skill that develops.

    do not interpretate things when you just read "tier".

    Zitat Zitat von Arkine Beitrag anzeigen

    thx a lot, thats it almost what i wanted.
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  10. #40
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    Avatar von RudyFails
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    Rudy Fails
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    Thaumaturg Lv 50
    Zitat Zitat von Jynx Beitrag anzeigen
    Oh I'm sorry if it wasn't obvious.

    MP managment is pretty much the prime example of why you would be selective of your tiers, not wasting MP on a overzealous cure or a overpowered nuke could give you much better DoT than pulling massive ammounts of emnity or wasting MP that you didn't need to.

    So yeah...good mages knew how to select tiers.
    This guy is right on the money (per usual). I can't describe the frustration of knocking a mob to about to 5% only to have to cast a 300mp spell, or pull out my weapon and smack it for 15 seconds. So yea, it CAN be useful.
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