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    It's silly you can't get the actual drops with the totems but something similar and less good. When you're doing the content to get certain drop, say DL boots, you don't settle for less, so totems are completely useless.

    Why not just let us buy the good stuff with the totems? Just have them require enough runs so that people won't get the drops too fast - say 100 runs for a body piece. I would say a person has earned their drop after successfully clearing the instance 100 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    When you're doing the content to get certain drop, say DL boots, you don't settle for less, so totems are completely useless.
    -.-

    Also I hope that "100 runs" is just a joke number for the example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    -.-

    Also I hope that "100 runs" is just a joke number for the example.
    Please elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Please elaborate?
    Well, its already taking that long for a lot of people, so would be a slap in the face for it to still take 100 runs when they are looking to convert to 'spamless' content. It would really defeat the purpose. And with guaranteed 2-3 rare drops per sucessful run (3x per week) one would likely have everything prior to 100 runs.
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    Yeah, I was thinking the totems as a backup for people with no drop luck. Let's say you're saving for 100 totems to get the best in slot body piece, you will most likely get other drops during that process.

    It's kind of difficult to measure what that "100 totems" would actually mean, but I was thinking if you do 10 runs a week (10 hours in 2-3 days for example), you'd get the piece of your dreams in 10 weeks. That's 2,5 months to get the best body piece in the whole game and you would be likely to get some other DL drops in the process. I don't think that would be too bad for such a good piece (and you would be 100% sure to get it, unlike in the current system). Other pieces could require a lower number of totems too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Yeah, I was thinking the totems as a backup for people with no drop luck. Let's say you're saving for 100 totems to get the best in slot body piece, you will most likely get other drops during that process.

    It's kind of difficult to measure what that "100 totems" would actually mean, but I was thinking if you do 10 runs a week (10 hours in 2-3 days for example), you'd get the piece of your dreams in 10 weeks. That's 2,5 months to get the best body piece in the whole game and you would be likely to get some other DL drops in the process. I don't think that would be too bad for such a good piece (and you would be 100% sure to get it, unlike in the current system). Other pieces could require a lower number of totems too.
    That's assuming the 2-3 times a week is not referring to re-entry time and lockouts; if it is indeed about re-entry and lockouts, i would say 10 tokens would be better that would take 3 weeks+ to gather. 3 weeks for 1 item, good 3-4 months if your trying to get everything or longer and if SE can't produce new content every 4-5 months, then there are gonna be issues regardless of drops.
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    Why wont a dev rep just clarify this for us???

    Does anyone have a link to the original thread that had 4 or so interviews and their translations that the OP copy pasted from?



    Fooooooooooound iiiiiiiiiiiiiit


    Looking into which article he got the tokens blurb from.

    Update: The first link was a video advertisement for Crystal Conquest... don't know if i'm missing something??? Anyway, I was able to run the other three articles through google translate. I skimmed through them but didn't find the slightest reference of raid boss drops nor tokens. I mght add that google was unable to translate the entirety of each article so it's likey part of the untranslated japanese text or in the first article that led m to crystal conquest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Yeah, I was thinking the totems as a backup for people with no drop luck. Let's say you're saving for 100 totems to get the best in slot body piece, you will most likely get other drops during that process.

    It's kind of difficult to measure what that "100 totems" would actually mean, but I was thinking if you do 10 runs a week (10 hours in 2-3 days for example), you'd get the piece of your dreams in 10 weeks. That's 2,5 months to get the best body piece in the whole game and you would be likely to get some other DL drops in the process. I don't think that would be too bad for such a good piece (and you would be 100% sure to get it, unlike in the current system). Other pieces could require a lower number of totems too.
    Going from an abysmal drop rate spam system to guarantee drop rate no-spam system is the same as going from 'you're lucky if something drops' to 'you're unlucky if nothing you want drops'. I dont forsee people having too much trouble getting the drop they want or needing 100 runs to get the drop they want. 2-3 drops per dungeon, 3x a week per dungeon, youre going to get stuff unless you are with some greedy people (the 'I play every class this I need everything' people included)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    (the 'I play every class this I need everything' people included)
    I've got a gold star mentally in my mind by each friend that isn't like this lol. Sadly I cant give very many gold stars
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    The token system is supposed to be a back up. if you don't get your piece in the main loot pools then you at least get a little bit closer to it with tokens. this i think is what every single mention of a token system in the last couple of years has been asking for.

    so having instead lesser rewards for tokens is a huge kick in the teeth. If your stuff doesnt drop then you're still no closer to it nor have you made any progress towards it. thus the token system becomes completely useless.
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