New Processing CHIP for extreme gaming

[Alhanelem]

That price difference is what drove my choice initially. But around the same time I built that machine, I got a new i5 at work that hauled ass doing fairly simple things compared to my AMD, I reconsidered and built a new gaming rig using an i5 chip. I'm glad I did.

My Phenom II X4 has yet to fail me. Among other things, runs FFXIV like a charm >.>

[Molly_Millions]

My Phenom II X4 has yet to fail me. Among other things, runs FFXIV like a charm >.>

I'm not doubting that there could have been other issues with my rig hindering performance. Again, this is personal experience, and just one pc compared to another. After fiddling with it for a few months to get better performance with ffxiv, I finally gave in and built a machine that performs much better. But that's why you can't trust anecdotes, test data is a far more accurate indicator. All I'm saying is that my personal experience with AMD has not been good.

[Captaindownsyndrome]

if its AMD i'll pass there way behind intel.

that matters what your wanting most amd labtops blow intels labtops out water (on gaming that is most other thing there behind on still) but most amd desktops cant even get close to the the same scores intel

[PSxpert2011]

I think the new AMD chip will run ARR sufficiently since its requirements should be lower overall. If someone is planning on upgrading an older machine and on a budget, it may be worthwhile to look into it.

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That's what I mostly like to know more about. Yeah people will choose based on preferences or their wallet. While Square Enix is developing ARR around a new engine, how would most of you plan a PC build?

A) Build a new PC around new/ expensive technology.

B) Build a new PC around new(but less expensive) alternative.

C) Upgrade partially with better tech.(but less expensive) hardware.

D) Complete UPGRADE around a better(less expensive) alternative.

[Coldfire]

Only upgrading parts worked for me for over ten years now. But not everyone is tech-savvy enough to replace the mainboard or CPU. Getting the "highend entry" stuff and overclocking a bit is usually the best performance-for-bucks.

[PSxpert2011]

OP why did you capitalize chip for?

AMD is alright for budget minded consumers, I was a long time user of AMD till Intel's Nehalem.

AMD's apu are pretty impressive, but at the same while you could just buy an Intel i3 + dedicated gpu for a little more.

It will probably run Reborn fine at conservative settings.
If you do plan to go to Trinity be sure to buy 1866MHZ ram, the graphics performance in AMD's APUs are highly influenced by the memory speed.

The word "CHIP" has a subliminal message encryption. .You will have a sudden urge to buy Doritos and the new "Doritos Taco" from Taco Bell..
But yeah, economically speaking, some people would design their machine around AMD, much considering the details around it. For some who can afford much more would nik-pick at this choice,idk... Usually if you can technology that's up to standard, people are more comfortable going that route.

Price-wise, would there be benefits to going with AMD compared to Intel. I currently build my machine around a Intel chip myself. It's a Duo-core Quad 2.33GHzs. I have 8Gs of RAM and a NVidia GeForce GTS 450... runs FFXIV quite decently.

[Valmonte]

The APU is hands down the best thing that has happened to "laptops", For desktops there isn't an IGP in the world that can best a discreet Mid to High Range-Graphics Card.

[Valmonte]

The word "CHIP" has a subliminal message encryption. .You will have a sudden urge to buy Doritos and the new "Doritos Taco" from Taco Bell..
But yeah, economically speaking, some people would design their machine around AMD, much considering the details around it. For some who can afford much more would nik-pick at this choice,idk... Usually if you can technology that's up to standard, people are more comfortable going that route.

Price-wise, would there be benefits to going with AMD compared to Intel. I currently build my machine around a Intel chip myself. It's a Duo-core Quad 2.33GHzs. I have 8Gs of RAM and a NVidia GeForce GTS 450... runs FFXIV quite decently.

I would get the Phenom 2 955BE or the Phenom 2 965 BE, both are cheaper than the i3, have more L3 and L2 Buffer and have more cores than the i3. the Intel hype is old if it is not an i7 go with AMD.

[hrdndv]

i5 3570k ivy bridge OC

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Yes Ivy Bridge is cool (I'm running AMD Phenom II and Intel i7 right now on 3 machines), but I am waiting for the release of the following components in May 2013
Intel Haswell i9 with
memory: 16GB (4x4GB) Samsung* DDR3-1600 or better
storage: solid state HD 6Gbs or better
video card: GeForce GTX 780 with built in Surround Sound and 3D

[Antipika]

Don't start making the mistake of thinking TDP means power usage :P
Over the years they always increased the clock speeds while decreasing the structure sizes. Now the clock speeds are at a point where putting them any higher would increase the power consumption a whole lot. Same thing with CPUs.

When two cards or CPU of the same series, with the same architecture, have a different TDP, you can easily affirm that the card with the lowest TDP will draw less power. Also when the gap is really high (i.e. 20W TDP vs 250W TDP, you can blindly say that the first card will consume less power :])

Typical case, B3 Kentsfield vs G0 Kentsfield. 105W vs 95W. The G0 could achieve higher clocks with the same amount of power (or same speed with less power ).

So off course TDP != power drawn from the socket, it's heavily related on the architecture.

My Phenom II X4 has yet to fail me. Among other things, runs FFXIV like a charm >.>

It doesn't change the fact that you have paid for a CPU that have a worse performance/price ratio (and overclocking potential) than its Intel counterparts :s

No one ever said that AMD CPU cannot run XIV well, but it's been a while since AMD was ahead in high end CPU for gaming enthusiast.

the Intel hype is old if it is not an i7 go with AMD.

Well, Sandy Bridge i5 have a better $/performance ratio in games than i7. There is no point to buy a 2600K for gaming, 2500K do just as good (and can be overclocked more easily due to the lack of HT).

The 2500K was $215 at release, the 2600K was $300+... For a gain that was often not even noticeable in any game (<1fps).