Magian Trials

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

FFXIV 1.0 has such a different feel to it than XI in terms of rewards and how those rewards are obtained. I'm for weapon upgrade trials, as it was stated to be in the works for current FFXIV job relic weapons, but when looking at the concept of 2.0 and tasks already implemented in this version I don't think they will be as harsh.

Of course, eventually there will be new content rewarding you with something better. However, I wouldn't count on it to be anything like XI. Before Yoshi-P left XI as the new director and came to XIV, XI felt like there was less pressure built up. I also feel that way during his time with XIV, so, really I count on it being very manageable by the player base. New and old.

I've had friends in XIV rejoin a few months ago and catch up in no time. Complete primals, dungeons, some even fortunate enough to get full to near full darklight, and most of their relic quest complete on top of having lives and jobs. It's totally manageable and I count on 2.0 keeping that path, personally.

[indira]

they just need to make quest/leves a real quest not mob kill spamming.

example would be to go old school and make quest like a real game instance or open world where you have to go play a dungeon setup like crono trigger or secret of mana even like zelda where theres puzzles and you cant rush through.
modern dungeons are basicly kill quest, kill mobs go to the next room.

[Venat]

I wouldnt mind if its not too extreme like they were in ffxi.

[Xatsh]

I am not a fan of the whole easy for new players to catch up mentality of modern mmos. I think a new player should be able to get to a point where they are capable of doing endgame. But I think really good gear should be lasting (2-3 yrs min), and if a new player stops playing for awhile it should take them awhile to get the gear.

WoW is a crazy extreme... there is no reward for players to do content now, why spend the time and work to get something if it will be complete crap in a few months. Why spend the months and month gearing your ls, when a newby in 1yr can join and get better gear in 1 week just from doing leveling quest.

That kind of catch up mentality needs to stay in WoW and the hell out of XIV. SE needs to lower barriers, but a veteran player should be head and shoulders better then a new person, and it should take that new player months if not years to catch up fully. Make it easy for them to get gear good enough for endgame, make it hard as hell for them to catch up to the BEST geared players. That is how it should be done. Why screw over the people playing your game to make a newby happy?

[Alhanelem]

Yet another 'copy this FFXI feature' thread....

Let FFXI do what FFXI does and let FFXIV do what FFXIV does.

Besides- magian trials were SE's way of creating more "content" without actually creating more content.

[Elexia]

Yet another 'copy this FFXI feature' thread....

Crystal Tower.

Let FFXI do what FFXI does and let FFXIV do what FFXIV does.

Crystal Tower - FFIII. Magitek - FFVI.

We're well past "Let FF(insert) do what FF(insert) does and let XIV be unique."

[Suirieko]

Final Fantasy games had always taken features from past FF Games. Why should FFXIV be different?

[Alhanelem]

Final Fantasy games had always taken features from past FF Games. Why should FFXIV be different?

The only things that are more or less common to all FFs are the bestiary and the magic spells.
I don't mind fanservice like this in some cases- but a lot of people seem to want to turn FFXIV into FFXI- In which case, you should just go play FFXI and let FFXIV take its own direction. Other games I'm fine with borrowing from, because those aren't FF MMORPGs that are still running that you could still play instead of demanding they make this game more like that one.

This is not FFXI and it should not try to emulate it any more than it already has- especially not by adding terrible features like the magian trials- Nice end result, terrible implementation- All the magian trials do is have you repeat existing content- they took the easy way out (yes, partially due to ps2 limitations, but still) instead of creating new actual content.

Way this thread could have been much better:

"Quests to upgrade equipment"

"It would be cool if we could have a series of interesting quest lines designed to let us upgrade and enhance our existing equipment instead of pursuing completely new ones."

This example post doesn't mention FFXI at all, doesn't mention the proper name of a feature from FFXI, and is a bit different from what magian trials are (which are just a mess of kill random enemies or fetch random item quests with literally zero flavor or story to them- just a moogle says "oh, you want to upgrade this? Well go collect 28 monkey butts.") If these upgrade processes had distinct quests with storylines and cutscenes that FF is known for, then I would call it worthwhile content, and it also wouldn't be a rip from FFXI, an MMO that's already running that you can still play.

Uh yeah lol. You can get most Empyrean weapons stage 1 in a day or two if you're really dedicated and don't have shitty NM prereqa (like Hovering Hotpot)

All of the NMs leading up to the magican weapon trials are lotto NMs that can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours to pop (it's random). It would take an extraordinary amount of luck to reach the stage 1 empy trial in one day.