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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethelinda View Post
    Huggin aren't you getting a little bit aggressive?? This is the exact opposite of the why of my post. No need to get this way >.>
    Sorry, i was just trying to point out that joining pick up groups will expose them to bullies and not let them get anything done. a small linkshell or group of friends is way better to get stuff done. no one is going to get anywhere with pick up groups. not sure what you think was aggressive about it. but the fact that i cant see the aggression probably comes from me being abused by authority figures as a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    Sorry, i was just trying to point out that joining pick up groups will expose them to bullies and not let them get anything done. a small linkshell or group of friends is way better to get stuff done. no one is going to get anywhere with pick up groups. not sure what you think was aggressive about it. but the fact that i cant see the aggression probably comes from me being abused by authority figures as a child.

    You def got a point Huggin. Agree. I experienced that myself.
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    Oh for the love of--really? REALLY??!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethelinda View Post
    Bullies Online

    First of all I will apologize in advance about my grammar. My primary language is Spanish but I will do the best that I can to express myself in a way you can all understand. ^^ I think this article will do well to some on the victim position. I’m very sorry about that too. As you can see on my profile I don’t post much but sometimes I feel the need to speak up and I guess this time I want to speak up for them.

    I decided to post this article about bullies because I’m sick and tired of some pretending to be mental stable individuals and “boom” out of nowhere they become someone's worst nightmare in their free and supposedly relaxing time. The sad part of this story is that many of these people are adults and even professionals. Many of us were victims at some point and I’m pretty sure you were thinking “Oh My God, what’s wrong with this person?” I was there one time, can think of three names at this moment, and will probably be again because we are SURROUNDED BY ZOMBIES! O_o

    Anyways last night someone calling himself a “lawyer”, committed harassment to someone in front of a group of people. These were a full party from his LS, one joined him like a good pal, and a few others waiting to get in A.V. I hope he doesn’t behave that way in real life if not I don’t see a really bright future as a lawyer for him. This is what throws me off my chair. However this is not so much about him because he is only one out of many in FFXIV that are constantly harassing and making a few players’ experience miserable; Shouting, /tells, linkshells sites, lodestone forums and whatever they find to accomplish their goals. Apparently this is their only way to justify their existence in this world. I don’t mind the adrenaline and some ego alpha male approach, I’m a girl and I can even understand that. Now what I’m really talking is about abusive behavior to the point where they are doing it to harm rather than to just have fun and compete or even express an opinion.


    SE, I don’t blame them. They are working too hard so they can’t do much. We got too many with problems and even drama queens already to be listening to every single one of them. We got to give them a break. It is impossible to keep up with everything and believe every story. I wish they will find a better way instead of just the blacklist which is totally useless. You can ignore what they say to you but you can’t ignore what they are doing on your screen or even the rumors that these beautiful mind people come up with. Sooner or later they will find a way to get to you. What can we do then? Not much. Trust on your friends or people that you have known the longest and their judgments. Will not guaranteed that they have a good judgment though but hey at least we got hopes that they do have it. That’s why we called them friends to begin with even if they are just cyber friends.


    This is the definition about harassment and cyber bullying

    Bullying: Repeated and deliberate harassment directed by one in a position of power toward one or more. Can involve threats or behaviors, including assault, or indirect and subtle forms of aggression, including rumor spreading. Also online bullying, often called online harassment, is a serious issue, and it’s getting more common.

    Harassment: Unsolicited words or actions intended to annoy, alarm, or abuse another individual in an emotional way.

    How to recognize a Cyber Bully.
    Online bullying can take many forms:


    • Sending threatening, taunting or teasing e-mails to someone.
    • In an online game use their character to make themselves known around you with the purpose of bothering you. Like emos actions or moving around you.
    • Using any other tech to spread gossip or rumors.
    • Pretending to be another person online so you can post or e-mail things that will embarrass or get that person in trouble. Very common on the forums
    • Being a “pretend friend” online so you can later hurt or humiliate someone.
    • “Ganging up” on someone in a chat or on a message board because the more people they have, the powerful they feel.
    • “Grieving” someone in an online video game by constantly picking on a new or inexperienced player.

    Why do people do it?

    It’s anonymous. The Web lets you hide behind a fake user name or alias, and many bullies feel protected by this “false identity.” Because they feel hidden and shielded, bullies might do and say things they would never dream of doing to someone face to face. In other words, sometimes a coward.

    They want revenge. If a person is bullied in real life (can be by strangers, friends and even family) he might decide to fight back online. You don’t have to be a typical “bully” to be mean. Many people who are good with technology see online cruelty as a way of getting even with people who push them around in the real world. They are not happy with themselves and their surroundings. Remember they need to be A SOMEBODY in this virtual world to feel happy. Once is over, they are nothing.

    They get caught up in it (Accidental one). Sometimes online bullies start out small, with a funny comment or a joke. Then things slowly get out of hand. They start posting meaner and meaner things, and before they know it, they’re really hurting people with the things they write. This is very common on forums. Some might not even realize it.

    They don’t understand how much it hurts. When you’re cruel to someone online, you can’t see him/her cry, so you might not understand just how bad you’re making him/her feel. We are humans behind a monitor after all.

    What can you do?

    Don’t retaliate. If someone is mean to you online, don’t hit back. It might seem natural to give them a taste of his or her own cruelty, but this will just keep the war going. Not worth it.
    Ignore it. Face to face, it can be very hard to “walk away” from an insult. Online, it’s actually much easier. Turn off your computer and walk away. Do not go back to Web sites or chat rooms where you’ve been bullied.

    Also we should never let ourselves be a victim but don’t become the bully neither. Don’t post comments or say anything when you are angry because you might become the bully by mistake and that’s not the way neither. At the end they will live by their own reputation. Haters will always hate

    Wish i had read all this yesterday night.... this completelly true, specially about dont retaliate at them even when one has proof, sadly to me yesterday they just finally got me to rage and i started a whole thread, you know i regret it now, after all i doubt it solved anything and now its made public and in the end my reputation ended even more hurted without get any help, seriously.
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    Last edited by BadOmen; 10-07-2012 at 05:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOmen View Post
    Wish i had read all this yesterday night.... this completelly true, specially about dont retaliate at them even when one has proof, sadly to me yesterday they just finally got me to rage and i started a whole thread, you know i regret it now, after all i doubt it solved anything and now its made public and in the end my reputation ended even more hurted without get any help, seriously.
    Sorry about that . Be strong, I know is hard but people will forget eventually. You seem like a nice person so I know it will get fixed very soon.
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    This is where rap music comes in handy, quick flip of the playlist and u go off on dem haterz! When keepin it real goes wrong, FFXIV style! WU TANG! dats right mo'foz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presbytier View Post
    This what Real Id would prevent. If someone had to face the idea that everyone could see the kind of person they are online they would fall back on the same social niceties that enables us as a society to get along. Now I know some worry about the security risks involved, but there are good solutions to that as well.
    http://www.nist.gov/nstic/
    No, this sort of thing is dangerous. Let me put it like this; if it's NOT dangerous to do, why would it be a safeguard against bullying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    In short, the likelihood of physical repercussion is very slim from what I've seen.
    From what I've seen someone with bad intentions finding your personal information online leading to action is 100%. But I guess I would be biased.

    I am only speaking up about this because it is dangerous territory and there are MUCH safer methods than plastering your personal info online. GM action is all it takes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    No, this sort of thing is dangerous. Let me put it like this; if it's NOT dangerous to do, why would it be a safeguard against bullying?



    From what I've seen someone with bad intentions finding your personal information online leading to action is 100%. But I guess I would be biased.

    I am only speaking up about this because it is dangerous territory and there are MUCH safer methods than plastering your personal info online. GM action is all it takes.
    Unfortunately by that logic we should always use pseudonyms in everything we do in life do to the risk of one nutcase using that information nefariously. In these conversations what we must realize is the not only will the victims name be known, but so would the bullier. i firmly believe that removing the wall of anonymity would force people to actually think about their actions in a real life consequential matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presbytier View Post
    Unfortunately by that logic we should always use pseudonyms in everything we do in life do to the risk of one nutcase using that information nefariously. In these conversations what we must realize is the not only will the victims name be known, but so would the bullier. i firmly believe that removing the wall of anonymity would force people to actually think about their actions in a real life consequential matter.
    And I disagree. Just look at Facebook. Literally put your real life image on it yet people still act the same. It only causes safety issues and just because "it doesn't happen a lot" doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

    There is a difference between real life situations and plastering your info online for any nutcase to see.
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