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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    As are you.

    Anonymity on the internet has done much good for the world itself. If everyone behaved as they did on the streets we would all be worse for it and often oblivious to the world around us and especially the flaws of ours and other governments.

    *edit*

    You also seem to think that the lack of Anonymity would make people not "Bully" online, face it people "Bully" with their names known all the time as well making your name known will do little to curb the real issue.
    OMFG we agree on something <wahoo>

    Do the people who walk on the wrong side of the street annoy you like they annoy me? Stick to the right people, it aint that hard.

    And those texters (or w/e they call themselves), every other day, one stands in front of me at the traffic lights, waiting for the light to turn green so we can walk across. There they are, texting on the bb oriphone, light changes, they keep on texting. Sometimes, I wanna just nudge them. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presbytier View Post
    The easiest and best solution to stop cyber bullying is to take the anonymity out of the web. Blizzard's Real Id plan was great unfortunately they caved to the pressure of people suddenly realizing they may have to own up top the things they said online.
    This is so wrong in so many ways.

    You really need to brush up on what social engineering is, and how taking anonymity out of the web can compromise your privacy and personal security

    Facebook is your first mistake.

    Please refrain from any logical fallacies while responding.

    One of the big reasons that Blizzard decided to pull RealID was that one of their employees revealed his real name in support of the new feature. Within a short time his home address and vehicle information was posted. That can be very dangerous, especially when it's the WoW community you're dealing with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzak View Post
    This is so wrong in so many ways.

    You really need to brush up on what social engineering is, and how taking anonymity out of the web can compromise your privacy and personal security

    Facebook is your first mistake.

    Please refrain from any logical fallacies while responding.

    One of the big reasons that Blizzard decided to pull RealID was that one of their employees revealed his real name in support of the new feature. Within a short time his home address and vehicle information was posted. That can be very dangerous, especially when it's the WoW community you're dealing with.
    I like how I am not supposed to respond with Logical fallacies, so I will begin by pointing out your most obvious one. Appeal to probability. Just because something can happen does not mean it will. I would like to point out that in that case only one person revealed their identity(if both parties are not made known then of course it invites abuses; also social engineering can happen eve when pseudonyms are used). In an ideal scenario everyones identity would be made known; this would have the effect of removing the artificial barrier of anonymity. You would be less likely to to harass someone if they knew who you were(especially considering if i know who you are it is easier form to go about seeking prosecution in the court of law). I also want to point out that the Blizzard case is unique in that most other MMOs I played it was already known who the community reps where, and as far as i can recollect none or very few have been the victims of cyber/bullying/thieves. If revealing ones identity was such a threat then no public individual nor game developer nor actor would ever do it. if someone wants to stalk they are going to do it whether it be in cyberspace with your fake identity or in reality with your real one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presbytier View Post
    ...if someone wants to stalk they are going to do it whether it be in cyberspace with your fake identity or in reality with your real one.
    Exactly, but why make it easy for them online to the point where they could easily screw with you offline as well?

    Sorry, but I still completely disagree with your position on forcing people to disclose their personal information for all to see when they register with an online community. It's unethical and it's just plain silly.

    When it comes to cyberbullies, this is when the moderation team, or GM staff, need to get involved and take care of the issue accordingly. If they're too lazy or incompetent to do so, then it's time to seek greener pastures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuzak View Post
    Exactly, but why make it easy for them online to the point where they could easily screw with you offline as well?

    Sorry, but I still completely disagree with your position on forcing people to disclose their personal information for all to see when they register with an online community. It's unethical and it's just plain silly.

    When it comes to cyber bullies, this is when the moderation team, or GM staff, need to get involved and take care of the issue accordingly. If they're too lazy or incompetent to do so, then it's time to seek greener pastures.
    How the hell is it unethical; every other area in ones life one is required to reveal their identity. Also you missed my point entirely; just because it can happen does not mean it will.
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    Apart from the title I don't understand what your post is about OP. I understand that you have been wronged in some way by another player, but the rest of your post is not making any sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honz View Post
    Apart from the title I don't understand what your post is about OP. I understand that you have been wronged in some way by another player, but the rest of your post is not making any sense to me.
    Bullying awareness and the why of my decision of posting about it; How to spot a bully and what can be done against him. Me been wronged by another player? not really. Not to the point where I had to post something like this. In fact, the reason that I'm posting it is because I was a witness of someone else been bullying by another person.

    Edit: I think you got confused at the part where I said "Many of us were victims at some point and I’m pretty sure you were thinking “Oh My God, what’s wrong with this person?” I was there one time, can think of three names at this moment" . On the third paragraph I explained that my decision was because what I witness last night with this victim. Let me know if I have to change something , my English might be bad and feedback are always welcome ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethelinda View Post
    Mmm... Bullying awareness and the why of my decision of posting about it; How to spot a bully and what can be done against him. Me been wronged by another player? not really. Not to the point where I had to post something like this. In fact, the reason that I'm posting it is because I was a witness of someone else been bullying by another person.
    pics or it didn't happen
    really what did you see / hear ?

    Maybe it was a misunderstanding misinterptretation

    I can tell you right now this language barrier / auto translate dictionary is not contributing to MY enjoyment of the game.

    NA server FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimie View Post
    pics or it didn't happen
    really what did you see / hear ?

    Maybe it was a misunderstanding misinterptretation

    I can tell you right now this language barrier / auto translate dictionary is not contributing to MY enjoyment of the game.

    NA server FTW
    LOL! :P
    Well pics not worth it. Is going to create drama and the point of the post is not to create one. Also I would become the bully for making everyone see who is actually the one I'm talking about. I'm pretty sure the victim will not appreciate it neither. Now that I think of it, it would be a good idea to make a thread of screenshots with bullies that we find on the server, the only fair part would be that it is the victims choice to post it or not.

    I definitely agree on the language barrier. Also text or written words got no emotions. People might be type something that looks too cold or harsh and it is not their intentions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethelinda View Post
    Don’t retaliate. If someone is mean to you online, don’t hit back. It might seem natural to give them a taste of his or her own cruelty, but this will just keep the war going.
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    Reported them

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    This sounds awesome!! Can't wait to esperience it!!

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