That Mac thread!

[AmyNeudaiz]

Now you are just arguing semantics for no real reason(PLUS I SAID WINDOWS FANBOYS NOT PC...LEARN TO READ!). Nobody in their right mind denies that a Mac is a PC, but when people refer to PC the connotation is Windows based computing, so please stop trying to act like you have a one up; you new exactly what I or anyone else was saying. No one was arguing they are not a PC; just a superior computing experience, and beside this just continues to reinforce my point that people who use Windows can not handle the thought of Mac users even existing.

Lol, how easily Mac fanboys get upset over a small mistake is funny. I'll actually try to make a point this time. But aside from that small mistake, which I apologize for, you are the one coming up here saying Mac is better and you are not really making any real points except for personal preference arguments.
EDIT: And to be clear, I mean any arguments that are actually valid.

What you are arguing is all subjective points of view and no facts. From what I understand, take to mind I am no expert on the topic, is that Mac has a more "modern" OS with more streamlined functions and that's all that can be said about it. There's no "magic component(s)" that make it run better or anything of the sort. On the flip side Macs are made so that you have to buy upgrades through Apple unless you're very tech savy (and most people are not) which makes it an obsolite system as a whole. Non-Apple PC's are user friendly hardware wise and inexpensive compared to Mac and they get better parts sooner on the market than non-Apple PC's and they are typically more powerful than Macs from this fact alone, not to mention the fact that you have so much freedom to do whatever you want that they are chosen over Mac.

Modern OS > more affordable, powerful and customizable system as a whole? I think not. Oh and before you go on saying Mac is affordable, if I can find it later I'll link it here but there was someone who made a video proving how over priced Apple products are by going through and clicking all the extra options available to add on to a regular new model Mac lap top and it was over $10,000. I don't even have a big point behind that, just the fact that you can customize a $10,000 lap top that would become obsolite in 2 years.

[Renen]

Ya know.. considering the hardware is identical.. lulz

Maybe you should concentrate more on the issue at hand and less on what labels people give you eh?

Anyone who would possibly argue that Windows is a superior computing environment needs to get out more. But hea, it's a forum so someone will make it.. soo if Windows is such a great environment and is easy to use etc etc.. Lets look at any old area of the system.. how about the C:\ drive for instance. A novice would ask "Why is it C:? Why not A?" To that you have to explain that it holds an archaic fall back to 80's floppy drives and hopefully you don't have to explain what a floppy drive itself is or why it is floppy. Innovative? Easy? On what plannet? But it gets better.. why would a modern operating system classify drives according to alphabetical charters, can you imagine a situation where there are more than 26 drives, partitions, usb sticks and cameras in a computer today? What if C:\My Documents\My Photos becomes full of photos? What then? Copy them all to D:\? Why is this core architecture of Windows stuck in the 80's? No other operating systems is. Mac's follow the Unix file system structure where storage is allocated to mount points, in this type of layout a user need not know what actual device they need to use to save files and and administrators can just allocate additional space where it is needed without changing the file system structure. /users/photos becomes /user/photos with more space... and don't even get me started on the Unix ZFS Filesystem, in that case you slap in a hard disk add it to the pool and space magically appears allocated by the volume manager.. along with all the other amazing features of ZFS that do not exist in Windows land.. but /sarcasm ZFS must not exist because we all know *only* Microsoft innovates with lots of great stuff like Internet Explorer and new and improved windows help to assist you with all the pirated/trial/shareware/ad ridden programs you use. :: roll eyes ::

One thing Microsoft is really good at though is advertising and convincing people who don't know very much about computers that they make good products.. for this A+

WTF did I just read

[Jaimie]

Dont buy a mac and expect to play games on it.
Most companies make games for PC. If you want games, get a PC, dont ask company to spend resources to port the game to mac.

Don't tell people what not to do.

[Jaimie]

WTF did I just read

LoL you never used Vista did you? Windows Vista is kinda like FFXIV, and Windows 7 is kinda like 2.0 do you understand what I'm saying ?

vista sucked 7 fixed it not completely though

[AmyNeudaiz]

Don't tell people what not to do.

Although I do kind of agree with you, the self entitlement on this thread makes me agree with Renen also.

LoL you never used Vista did you? Windows Vista is kinda like FFXIV, and Windows 7 is kinda like 2.0 do you understand what I'm saying ?

vista sucked 7 fixed it not completely though

Vista was so horrible it should not even be mentioned. It's just a universally understood fact.

[Jadi]

Hea AmyNeudaiz, Macs *are* better. You'll have to just face it. The system design (mostly due to Darwin/Mach/FreeBSD) is superior. The UI implementation is superior.

Saying they are more expensive is like saying Cobalt is better than Dark Light because it's cheaper.

[Jadi]

Although I do kind of agree with you, the self entitlement on this thread makes me agree with Renen also.



Vista was so horrible it should not even be mentioned. It's just a universally understood fact.

You know that 7 is Vista re branded and touched up, right? Same core system.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Hea AmyNeudaiz, Macs *are* better. You'll have to just face it. The system design (mostly due to Darwin/Mach/FreeBSD) is superior. The UI implementation is superior.

Saying they are more expensive is like saying Cobalt is better than Dark Light because it's cheaper.

Off the subject of your analogy, I'd take appropriate triple IV melds on +1 Cobalt over Darklight anyday. People just like to say Darklight is better because of the social status attached to it. Also, Darklight is cheaper because it's free.

Anyways back to the subject, I was more arguing the cost effectiveness of the 2. For what you would pay for in a Mac PC you can get better in a non-Mac PC and be able to make the same upgrades far cheaper. This is only one point. If you feel inclined to throw your money away so you can have an icon on your computer monitor shaped like a bitten apple, feel free.

You know that 7 is Vista re branded and touched up, right? Same core system.

7 is Vista fixed. The reason Vista is horrible is not present in 7. This is coming from someone who doesn't like Windows OS. Let me say it again for extra clearity. I hate Windows, it's crap.

[Jadi]

Off the subject of your analogy, I'd take appropriate triple IV melds on +1 Cobalt over Darklight anyday. People just like to say Darklight is better because of the social status attached to it. Also, Darklight is cheaper because it's free.

Anyways back to the subject, I was more arguing the cost effectiveness of the 2. For what you would pay for in a Mac PC you can get better in a non-Mac PC and be able to make the same upgrades far cheaper. This is only one point. If you feel inclined to throw your money away so you can have an icon on your computer monitor shaped like a bitten apple, feel free.



7 is Vista fixed. The reason Vista is horrible is not present in 7. This is coming from someone who doesn't like Windows OS.

What was "fixed"? Both seem to run like crap to me but I don't know.. I have to compare that with what I know and I have experience with pretty much any operating system you could name and many you couldn't. My biggest complaint about windows is that it allows the user to pollute and slowly destroy the operating system.. this is why new installs run so much better on Windows. Other OS's don't really have this problem. On Linux or Solaris for example.. every single time you log into it.. unless you make a change it is exactly the same level of performance as last time and will run this way till the hardware gives out.

You know how to tell your hardware is failing in Solaris? It crashes. In windows this is just an indication that it hasn't been rebooted in 3 days. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsStHxtVr_w

The Windows Mojave testing told Microsoft that what was wrong with Vista was.. nothing. and btw. 8 is worse.. 8 will kill Microsoft.

[AmyNeudaiz]

What was "fixed"? Both seem to run like crap to me but I don't know.. I have to compare that with what I know and I have experience with pretty much any operating system you could name and many you couldn't. My biggest complaint about windows is that it allows the user to pollute and slowly destroy the operating system.. this is why new installs run so much better on Windows. Other OS's don't really have this problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsStHxtVr_w

The Windows Mojave testing told Microsoft that what was wrong with Vista was.. nothing. and btw. 8 is worse.. 8 will kill Microsoft.

Bolded for truth.

Back on subject, Windows 7 removed most of the "flashy but not practical" crap they had on Vista which was extremely irritating. They made the OS run faster and they got rid of many bugs that Vista had. They made the security system less "pull your hair out in frustration" and generally improved it. It's all "preference" if you will, but it cause major issues with making it not user friendly for the sake of looking pretty. Source: PCworld article I read like forever ago (can't find to link) and actual experience with both.

In windows this is just an indication that it hasn't been rebooted in 3 days. lol

None of my computers ever had this issue even when one was on Vista and I've never heard of anyone having this issue unless they have a really old PC. I'm starting to think you're the one with preconceived ideas of what Windows is like.