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  1. #31
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    Relic quest won't be eased up anytime soon because more relics are being acquired than expected:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post812649

    However, parts of the quest itself may be getting changed in ARR. This is a guess based on the fact that all of the CC and AV dungeon achievements are becoming unobtainable in ARR. Not to mention Aetheryte camps won't be the same in ARR so even the Faction Leve stuff could end up being different.
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...0c9127bfe4e624

    Beyond that, no one has a clue at this point what they are planning to do.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamikazeMan View Post
    Well Yoshida mentioned keeping an eye on how fast people are obtaining relics. I'm sure the requirements will change. It seems the only reason we got the requirements we did was due to lack of game content and they didn't want everybody and their mother running around with relics.
    The pace of relics coming in will be a lot lower in 2.0, mostly because we will have much more content to work with. Right now, the most exciting things to do end game are CC/AV, Darnus, or relics. You even have to do CC/AV to progress in the relic quest. If we get the amount of content as Yoshida says, then we will have much more work on our hands and won't fully focus on relic (Most of us anyways.).

    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    Relic quest won't be eased up anytime soon because more relics are being acquired than expected:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post812649

    However, parts of the quest itself may be getting changed in ARR. This is a guess based on the fact that all of the CC and AV dungeon achievements are becoming unobtainable in ARR. Not to mention Aetheryte camps won't be the same in ARR so even the Faction Leve stuff could end up being different.
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...0c9127bfe4e624

    Beyond that, no one has a clue at this point what they are planning to do.
    They did say speed runs may become an achievement, but not required to obtain all the treasure in the dungeons. You can still make a 17 minute requirement to get the salt/mythril in the dungeon. You just won't have an actual timer kicking you out once the 60 minutes are up.

    Faction Leve and how strongholds will be set up I think will be the biggest changes. Not to mention, we are getting a fully revamped Behest which is a requirement also.
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    Last edited by Velhart; 10-05-2012 at 12:06 AM.

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    Relics are too easy to get, plain and simple.

    Sure the first time you do it the process may seem daunting but I had it so streamlined that by the last 3 relics I pretty much got them all done in a week.

    Once Hamlet is out of the way you can run AV/CC speed runs multiple times and save up all the ore/salts you need. After that you can buy all the beast coins you want and then run DH/Caravan enough for 3 relics.

    2x Melds can be bought or farmed. I bought half and melded the other half.

    This pretty much means you just have to do your SH boss (10 min), Spirit Bind (6 hours if you know where to go), and kill Garuda/IfirtX. (This really depends on your friends/LS connections)
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  4. #34
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    hamlet is a timesink for one reason..... you do it once..... you get your 9 seals and your done with it and never have to worry about it again for your relics

    and there are ways to speed up the whole hamlet part... just get #1 spot and your done.... 3 runs a day at #1 means 3 days of hamlet and never again
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    Which is why as I said it's pretty much an unnecessary step, they knew no one would really bother with Hamlet Defense unless they were forced into it..and really, before we knew it would be used for "AF Weapons (later Relics)" no one really bothered with it after the first week except for the Japanese on a lot of servers lol.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Which is why as I said it's pretty much an unnecessary step, they knew no one would really bother with Hamlet Defense unless they were forced into it..and really, before we knew it would be used for "AF Weapons (later Relics)" no one really bothered with it after the first week except for the Japanese on a lot of servers lol.
    There is enough nice stuff to get in Hamlet to make it a worthwhile activity for a while, but if it wasn't for relic, it would died out quicker than it already did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alegis View Post
    source?

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    It's the *only* quest whose progress will carry over from 1.0 to 2.0 and this was stated in official announcements. Therefore, other than the form the On the Properties of Beastmen item will take, there isn't likely to be any significant change to this.

    All other quests you have in progress will be reset. But if you've started the relic quest, you'll keep your progress on that.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    Quest progression can change all it wants, and I'm all for them making the quest unforgiving. But for the love of fuck don't change the prereqs. New players deserve to go through the suffering that I went to in order to gain seals.

    EDIT: I don't want the relic quest to be easier, I want it to be harder.
    We already know Hamlet is getting revamped so no matter what, the actual obtaining of the items necessary for the prereq is going to be different. Sure, we might have to obtain 3 seals from each area still, but the fight itself is going to be different.
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  9. #39
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    hope they change the double meld part, not fair some people go 0/20 while others go 3/5
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iryu View Post
    hope they change the double meld part, not fair some people go 0/20 while others go 3/5
    That goes along with the whole materia system itself. Bad system. RNG != Skill or fun.
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