Retainer/AH system, a little confused?

[eruntalo]

The revamped MW/AH system designed by Yoshi-P's team is one of the last things I'm worried about. We also have no information about this other than a year-old PDF file and knowledge that we will still have retainers.

All this hullabaloo over nothing.

Yoshi bitched over and over about how the old servers were the reason he was so limited in how much he could improve the MW system, and that in 2.0 he could finally do what he wanted. So he clearly is changing it. And until then, we wait. So wait.

[HamHam]

I'm with the OP. I can't see a retainer system as a market functioning in ARR. It's crazy that they want to use a system everyone is against. People want to have easy access to a market where they can sell and buy items with ease. We don't want to go into an instance, then click through 10 different menus to get to see what we want to buy.

Also, in order to sell some items and you want to know the prices of such item, you have to go to the market menu, check prices, then go back to your retainer, do a bunch of click, wait for the item list to load, then pick the exchange item menu, put item in retainer, get out of the menu, click on bazaar menu, look through your list for the item, click item, input the price you want to use to sell item, get out of the menu, wait a few second for your avatar to be able to move again. THIS IS MIND BOGGLING.

All I want is (go to AH window, click buy or sell, items appear, choose item, and pick if you want to buy or not) simple...

[KiriA500]

The revamped MW/AH system designed by Yoshi-P's team is one of the last things I'm worried about. We also have no information about this other than a year-old PDF file and knowledge that we will still have retainers.

All this hullabaloo over nothing.

Yoshi bitched over and over about how the old servers were the reason he was so limited in how much he could improve the MW system, and that in 2.0 he could finally do what he wanted. So he clearly is changing it. And until then, we wait. So wait.

I wish I could give you another +1 just for your character name!

[HamHam]

The revamped MW/AH system designed by Yoshi-P's team is one of the last things I'm worried about. We also have no information about this other than a year-old PDF file and knowledge that we will still have retainers.

All this hullabaloo over nothing.

Yoshi bitched over and over about how the old servers were the reason he was so limited in how much he could improve the MW system, and that in 2.0 he could finally do what he wanted. So he clearly is changing it. And until then, we wait. So wait.

I'm sure if we keep the conversation going about this topic, one of the rep will response or at least inquire about it from Yoshi to give more details. But, if we are complacent with what SE says and wait it might send the message that we are ok with whatever information they give us. We want details. I can understand when sometimes they held back information in certain things, but if SE is committed to a retainer system, then why held back any details in this regard?

So, I say let's keep posting and let SE know what our feelings are in regards to a retainer or AH system.

[Wynn]

It always amazes me how we can know something for-literally-ever and hear nary a peep from people. And then at the last minute people show up with picket signs.

If you didn't even know this was what they were doing with the market until now, how can you claim it is an important issue to you?

[Felis]

I'm with the OP. I can't see a retainer system as a market functioning in ARR. It's crazy that they want to use a system everyone is against.

Most people are against the market ward 1.0. Most people can't explain what they don't like on market ward 2.0

People want to have easy access to a market where they can sell and buy items with ease. We don't want to go into an instance, then click through 10 different menus to get to see what we want to buy.

Also, in order to sell some items and you want to know the prices of such item, you have to go to the market menu, check prices, then go back to your retainer, do a bunch of click, wait for the item list to load, then pick the exchange item menu, put item in retainer, get out of the menu, click on bazaar menu, look through your list for the item, click item, input the price you want to use to sell item, get out of the menu, wait a few second for your avatar to be able to move again. THIS IS MIND BOGGLING.

Like this. You explain with this what you don't like on market ward 1.0. Now, can you explain what you don't like on market ward 2.0?
Take time to explain, I'm waiting until the beta.

[GinTama]

lets wait for beta i would say. it doesnt have to be an AH, if it does its purpose and does it good ther should be no problem.
If its no good, we just start crying.

[TrystWildkey]

The difficulty I have with using the Market Wards is that I have to know exactly what I'm looking for.

I like to browse.

I like to browse through the available weapons for my class and see what options are available. I like to browse through gear to see what's available, and quickly scroll up and down the list to compare. I can't do this with the market wards as they are currently designed.

[Alhanelem]

I thought SE said we were getting an AH in ARR? All I hear now is revamping the retainer system in ARR which saddens me.

You thought wrong. We're getting a market that has all the features of an AH plus more, but still uses retainers. The markets will be integrated that is all 3 cities truly linked, and improvements to the system will be made. The markets are not being removed or replaced, but they are being revised.

[Duuude007]

We dont know what the end result will be. Maybe it will be some sort of wards/AH hybrid? Im not worried regardless.