Retainer/AH system, a little confused?

[leomax]

Hey guys,

I thought SE said we were getting an AH in ARR? All I hear now is revamping the retainer system in ARR which saddens me.

I just feel like its going to hold ARR back some what, I'm only speculating as I want ARR to be a success. I can't see any reviews being positive on this system with 'retainer' attached to it when ARR drops because of the past.

I just hate the idea of many retainers in an area for no use what so ever, depending on how good the search and engine is it can't display them all so why even have them shown if all we will be doing is buying from search and occasionally spawn them to transfer items across.

I would much rather have a mog house xP or the old school counter and a nice setting to chill around in, I miss the fountain and ah area in Bastok hehe!

This has most likely been discussed to death but its the only thing that I have deep concerns about.

Maybe I have missed something with regards to an AH, so if someone could clarify that would be superrrrrr.

Thanks

[sharazisspecial]

Yes they are really crazy if they are keeping the market wards. Retainers should have a different purpose instead of being market ward bazaar zombies.

Auction house is one the few things that alot of players WILL NOT compromise on. Either selling/buying is easy and convenient or you lose alot of potential players.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

or else you could wait some specific info on the new market wards <_<

[Inzoum]

I'm not entirely against the whole retainer thing, having them hold your excess garbage and having the sales performed from their inventory is fine... However, I'm against having them stand still in a crowded room to show off their wares. Sales and purchases should be exclusively menu-based and optimized for quick searching. If that's what they're moving towards, I'm OK with it.

[sharazisspecial]

Not really anything could make the market wards good without it being a worse version of AH.

We already know that retainers have an increased bazaar which means we will selling through retainers. Which makes it automatically less convenient and more time consuming then other MMO AHs.

Its doesnt matter if current fans don't mind market wards. Its just fact that this game will lose alot of potential subscribers if they dont implement a good auction house. Most people who quit this game will ask . Does this still have market wards? and then not bother to pick up this game because of the horrible experience with market wards.

[AntonyB]

I second this, would much rather have an AH where you can chill at in town and see stuff rather than teleporting into the MW. I'd rather have the mog house idea back, pretty much like the inn we have now but allow storage of all items instead of the select few currently.

Incoming moaners with there "I like MWs because its like I'm really shopping for me items".

In reply to this: Yea but least when you go shopping you can see all the shops around u and not have to wait for them to appear!

[sharazisspecial]

I have no faith in SE when it comes to UI, menus and Time Convenience . They have proven they are very incompetent with UI making , Have Lag and poor design and have time consuming actions and menus.

When it comes to epic storyline and epic characters now i have faith they will deliver this because they have proven this.

but when i read market wards / increased retainer bazaar ... Alarm bells ring for me. So i think we should complain about this.

[leomax]

I agree that it needs to be all menu based, I just don't like the idea of them all spawned in a certain area, they've even said on the new engine they won't be able to show them all so I'm just very confused as to why they are keeping it that way.

I personally think we should all have our own instance where we can store/access/list our stuff, whether that be in our inns or w/e.

I can only go off what we had/have right now and its just awfully cumbersome, I have had things on my 2 retainers now for years because I just can't be bothered going through the hassle of noting down prices, running back/forth and listing things.

I know a lot of people who dual box or run multiple instances of the game on their computers, me included! Surely this isn't what they intended. ;p

I hope they have thought this through, I honestly think it could be one of the things that will make or break this game. I don't want to read reviews months from now saying what the hell were they thinking keeping market wards and retainers.

I just wanted to start a discussion on this pressing matter beforehand so it can be dealt with asap.

I hope we get some information/video footage sooner rather than later.

[Felis]

Hey guys,

I thought SE said we were getting an AH in ARR?

Give link or it never happened
They just say they put more AH features to the market wards

from the pdf files

Complete redesign of markets into a system incorporating retainers and auction house elements. Planned for version 2.0.

[leomax]

Ah that was it, I remember AH being in there but it was a while back so thats why I asked.

I'll just await further information but it isn't looking good in my eyes.