Permanent Death Servers

[Req]

I think this thread is dramatically underestimating the instant increase in player skill when something is on the line. People always up there game when they will lose something for failing. The number of deaths on a permadeath server would be far lower than anyone would anticipate. The only thing that would change that is open world PvP. There would be plenty of crafters and gatherers because it would be something you can do that doesn't put your life at risk. The economy would flourish because things would have real value. No one would level to 50 in level 10 armour. Players would be more conservative about who they party with and proven skill would be significantly more important. Strategy would become far more important because no one would try to do something as dumb as Train their way through Natalan.

I honestly think players would find this kind of server to be significantly more fun than a standard nothing you do matters server. There is only one stipulation I would make As I said before, if you die you are not deleted. You are moved to a regular server.

People might play better if things are on the line but that doesnt change the fact that all of the instances are inherently flawed in a way that they punish you with one shot moves for even the slightest mistake. This causes problems when the AI does things completely out of your control like ifrit extreme doing a jump then immediately using plumes all around him as soon as incinerate goes off. Another bullshit scenario I have seen atleast 4 times now is Chimaera charging voice of the dragon, then after its halfway charged his eyes turn blue and it kills half the party because it didn't give you the visual clues you needed to detect you needed to get out of range.

I really wish I had a video of an Ifrit fight I did last week where I literally ran all the way across the arena directly back from ifrit to the very edge leaving me nowhere further i could run and I still got hit by the eruption that spawned in the original spot I was standing right behind ifrit.

[Darshu]

Your personal opinion, Renen. Couldn't care less about it or anyone's opinion on the matter of whether S-E will care, or if enough people will want it. Whatever you have to say about it will not change the reality. Is it really too hard to let those who want it speculate and have fun in peace?

[Reinheart]

You're watching too much Sword Art Online

[viion]

So many clueless posts in this thread ><. plenty of games that aint skill and mmo that have done this.

I just don't get the negativity? Don't like perma death? dont play on the server, Whats wrong with choice? Whats wrong with variety? Whats wrong if there is a large enough people who like to satisfy that like.

People have this freakish control over what this game is about, anything stirs from it forbid you get shot.

Its like PVP, its going to happen weather you like it or not, theres no action in the game so why is there pvp some might say, but its happening, and it will work. And if you dont like it you wont participate in it, why cant it be the same here?

[IloveYouPumpkin]

Necro? Oh yes I did.

[Quesse]

So many clueless posts in this thread ><. plenty of games that aint skill and mmo that have done this.

I just don't get the negativity? Don't like perma death? dont play on the server, Whats wrong with choice? Whats wrong with variety? Whats wrong if there is a large enough people who like to satisfy that like.

People have this freakish control over what this game is about, anything stirs from it forbid you get shot.

Its like PVP, its going to happen weather you like it or not, theres no action in the game so why is there pvp some might say, but its happening, and it will work. And if you dont like it you wont participate in it, why cant it be the same here?

I guess for one thing, if SE was to implement this it would mean taking away from working on other enhancements. To say that this idea would benefit a few people is an understatement. Plus, those the majority of those interested in this concept would try it a few times and realize its futility and give up on it. You'd be left with a true handful of people interested in this idea for the long haul. Its somewhat selfish of those people to think their extreme minority interest in this concept outweighs the greater good. After all its not just your money paying for this game. Its mine too and I wouldn't want it wasted on such a lame idea. I think that's where the negativity is coming from - let's get SE focused on more beneficial concepts.

[Rex]

I'd be curious about this kind of thing. But I'd have to disagree with the "it doesn't have to be built for this style of gameplay" because so many fights have attacks that one shot mages so easily.

Still curious none the less.

[IloveYouPumpkin]

I'd be curious about this kind of thing. But I'd have to disagree with the "it doesn't have to be built for this style of gameplay" because so many fights have attacks that one shot mages so easily.

Still curious none the less.

Fuck mages.

[RoxyLalonde]

that's a bit cruel considering we heal you :'(

[AquaRyu]

Do this need a particular server?
Why not just delete yours char when they are KO'd?