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    I'm honestly not going to get into the umpteen billion reasons why this doesn't work and I think the OP acknowledges that to some extent.

    Here's my answer: rip the code and the make a private server and tell all of us how it works out. I think most of us know the answer to that. If you aren't willing to invest resources (time, money) to do something you yourself desire then imagine SE's position.
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    Look, it's simple. The content in this game is not designed for a permadeath playstyle. To make this idea work well, SE would have to completely redesign the content and the system, then balance all of it. In other words, they'd have to remake the game. Again.

    Sure, they could do it without changing anything except losing raise, and the ability to return at death, but it'd be crap playing it. It would also be a waste of a server unless they went with the rebuild, as they'd (rightfully) point out that you could achieve the same effect on a normal server by just deleting and recreating your character at death. The idea just isn't cost effective for SE, no matter how you look at it.

    The concept itself is mere novelty, and novelty gets old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    I'm honestly not going to get into the umpteen billion reasons why this doesn't work
    I think having the option to flee in instances would be the only thing this server would need. Plus a ladder. I don't think anything else is required in order for this to work.
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    Last edited by IloveYouPumpkin; 10-03-2012 at 01:52 PM. Reason: P

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    I would be up for a much more brutal server, gear destruction, no respawn, only resurrection by players or it is perma death.. lootable corpses though! (wouldn't happen but lol would be nice)

    I ain't sure on how dungeons would work overall, but then if they just threw in a exp bonus so its more about the end game content and tough challenges over leveling i think that would take away the boring part of the game.

    just my thoughts anyway..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esk View Post
    I would be up for a much more brutal server, gear destruction, no respawn, only resurrection by players or it is perma death.. lootable corpses though! (wouldn't happen but lol would be nice)

    I ain't sure on how dungeons would work overall, but then if they just threw in a exp bonus so its more about the end game content and tough challenges over leveling i think that would take away the boring part of the game.

    just my thoughts anyway..
    Lootable corpses.... now we're talking. When someone dies they stay there until looted by someone. Add that to the list of things I want in this fantasy server of mine that will likely not happen. One can dream though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin View Post
    Lootable corpses.... now we're talking. When someone dies they stay there until looted by someone. Add that to the list of things I want in this fantasy server of mine that will likely not happen. One can dream though.
    Should have been around in the old games of gaming, we had this stuff... People got soft..
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    If you want a permadeath solution, just axe your character the next time you die. Form a pact with your tight knit community of expert players to delete their active characters on death.

    What could be more exhilarating than destroying your own character after two years of work because of an arbitrary game mechanic you invented? If they chicken out, well, you'll know they weren't really committed to the idea in the first place.

    If it's recognition you're worried about, Youtube the sacrifice. Run a website or make a thread on the official forums to keep tabs on who's the ballsiest. I'd say that's more of a thrill than letting SE do the work for you, unless you're some kind of casual.

    You're... not a casual, are you?
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    I would only even touch this if raising was still possible. Thus you're only really screwed if you're KOed somewhere that nobody can help you. But... that doesn't even make sense.

    in FFXIV, and in FF in general, you get K.O.'d. you don't "die."

    IMHO this is too niche of a market for SE to cater to. It's even more niche than RP. I won't discount the thrill of living on the edge in this way. I simply don't feel it fits MMORPGs in general. It's better suited for a smaller scale Co-op game like the Diablo series (which has options for this).

    So on that note, if SE adds a RP server (with stricter naming and chat conventions), then maybe I could see this happening. a RP server would most definitely happen before a "hardcore/permadeath" mode/server.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 10-03-2012 at 04:32 PM.

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    Then you have to think of the person who will make a character specifically to have a party wipe.
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