"Revamped" Rewards System

[Mijin]

While the details have yet to be finalized, Yoshida did discuss a bit about his plans for the new rewards system in a recent media interview. He said that for the overall path for how adventurers increase their strength, they're creating a flow where you would earn tokens via content to purchase equipment. Then, using that new gear, would be able to take on challenges for rare items, and once complete, challenge ever harder content to really become powerful. Players should be able to achieve the first objective, and then really challenge themselves on the higher difficulty content.

As soon as we have more concrete examples or details, we'll be sure to pass them along!

It’s is basically what I was afraid of. This system is a carbon copy of WoW’s horse-and-carrot rewards system to keep people constantly replacing their gear sets. I assume since they’re following WoW so closely in this aspect, and several others for that matter, they will also follow in their footsteps of releasing new content every several weeks that replaces the old “best gear” entirely forcing you into a never ending cycle of collecting completely new gear sets.

I can’t help but suspect this system is going to further undermine crafters as well. If everyone is gearing up by doing low end dungeons to gain the user accepted “gear rating” to raid, people are going to lose a need for crafted gear. I would also venture to guess that the current gear you have already worked so hard to obtain will probably be made obsolete at the launch date.

In any case; WoW fans will rejoice, and FFXI fans (aka the majority of people interested in FFXIV) will be much less pleased. Of course I'm speculating about a few things here so I'll retain some optimism, but for the record, as Rukkirii just confirmed, my speculations turn our to be true more than not.

[Shougun]

It’s is basically what I was afraid of. This system is a carbon copy of WoW’s horse-and-carrot rewards system to keep people constantly replacing their gear sets. I assume since they’re following WoW so closely in this aspect, and several others for that matter, they will also follow in their footsteps of releasing new content every several weeks that replaces the old “best gear” entirely forcing you into a never ending cycle of collecting completely new gear sets.

I can’t help but suspect this system is going to further undermine crafters as well. If everyone is gearing up by doing low end dungeons to gain the user accepted “gear rating” to raid, people are going to lose a need for crafted gear. I would also venture to guess that the current gear you have already worked so hard to obtain will probably be made obsolete at the launch date.

In any case; WoW fans will rejoice, and FFXI fans (aka the majority of people interested in FFXIV) will be much less pleased. Of course I'm speculating about a few things here so I'll retain some optimism, but for the record, as Rukkirii just confirmed, my speculations turn our to be true more than not.

Everything in the game is designed to keep you playing. . . And just because WoW does it doesnt mean everything that happens in WoW will happen here.

Oh noez i see an exp bar and a mini map on my screen, must be like WoW. WoW didn't really create as much as it made renovation to preexisting systems. And while it may not be everyone's favorite game they obviously did enough right that even with a subscription they reached millions of players.

SE wouldnt be wise to try and make another WoW as WoW is WoW - and is still alive. However, there are tips they can take (That WoW has taken from other mmo's :P, also can look at other big mmo's for what they do well/not. Like GW2 has a better sense of working together, no bitching who gets the first or last hit).

I hope they make ideas their own as well though, like when they do token systems perhaps they can blend it into the game in a less obvious way - like crafting material drops and such that are a more natural sense of getting items.

[Mijin]

Everything in the game is designed to keep you playing. . . And just because WoW does it doesnt mean everything that happens in WoW will happen here.

Oh noez i see an exp bar and a mini map on my screen, must be like WoW. WoW didn't really create as much as it made renovation to preexisting systems. And while it may not be everyone's favorite game they obviously did enough right that even with a subscription they reached millions of players.

SE wouldnt be wise to try and make another WoW as WoW is WoW - and is still alive. However, there are tips they can take (That WoW has taken from other mmo's :P, also can look at other big mmo's for what they do well/not. Like GW2 has a better sense of working together, no bitching who gets the first or last hit).

I hope they make ideas their own as well though, like when they do token systems perhaps they can blend it into the game in a less obvious way - like crafting material drops and such that are a more natural sense of getting items.

I'd like to remind you that wow clones never work.

[Yrusama]

I'd like to remind you that wow clones never work.

He's not saying it should be a WoW clone. He's saying it's not a bad thing to adapt good ideas from other MMOs to XIV. FFXIV tried too hard to be different at its initial launch, which was part of its failing. There are also a lot of other features that set XIV apart from other MMOs, namely being able to switch not only from job to job, but between job and class. I hope they give us more uses for the classes, though, because the class-only gear looks nice.

[Mijin]

He's not saying it should be a WoW clone. He's saying it's not a bad thing to adapt good ideas from other MMOs to XIV. FFXIV tried too hard to be different at its initial launch, which was part of its failing. There are also a lot of other features that set XIV apart from other MMOs, namely being able to switch not only from job to job, but between job and class. I hope they give us more uses for the classes, though, because the class-only gear looks nice.

I don't thing borrowing ideas is bad either I just don't like this one. I would have rather them copied XI's system than WoW's system here, but I'll wait and see how it turn out to decide if I really hate it or not. I just don't like the sound of it so far is all.

[Firon]

I don't thing borrowing ideas is bad either I just don't like this one. I would have rather them copied XI's system than WoW's system here, but I'll wait and see how it turn out to decide if I really hate it or not. I just don't like the sound of it so far is all.

You been playing with wow system system for a while now FFXIV has replaced my pgl gear so many times since Darkhold came out the only equip that has been the same is my leg/hands equip everything else has been constantly changing every single update.

I don't want XI's system again cause when your sitting at 75 pld in XI @ one point with Aegis shadow mantle and all the other godly equip you can think of, then when they release new content your grinding your ass off for a piece of armor that has 1 extra % haste on it or 1 extra vit or def or sometimes nothing at all. WoW system works people like it and most ppl here wouldn't even be able to have most of wow's hardest to obtain gear cause they are use to lol tank in one spot fights. XI's gear system is the reason they lost a ton of players ppl was use to having the best for so long when they finaly raised the cap after seven years when they said they never would people got pissed.