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    Less information = more cooperation

    After reading a few posts here and there, the subject regarding the lack of in game info has come up a few times. By info, I do not mean info regarding patches, ps3 release dates etc. I am refering to info such as crafting, the (kind of) AH locations and mechanics etc

    I do see people point of view when they say this can be frustrating at times. However, the lack of info given could (and this is only my thought on this) be a way of encouraging interaction between players.

    I'll give an example;

    player 1: hi there, do you know where i can find <random oil>? I need it to craft <much needed item>

    Player 2: yes, you get it from alchamy, I happen to have a few myself. Would you like some? I'll sell cheap if you are short on money

    Player 1: yeah, how much? i would like 5 bottles if you can spare them?

    player 2: not a problem. *completes agreed transaction* Btw, do you happen to know where <generic npc> is?

    Player 1: yes, I came across him while trying to look for <random oil>, he's over yonder.

    Player 2: thankyou, i been looking for him for ages.

    player 1: tell you what, it's not far, i can take you to him if you like?

    Player 2: that would be great, thanks

    and off they go, on an adventure....

    ok, very simple example but im sure you get my point. The lack of info given promotes interaction between players. This in my mind is a good thing.

    any thoughts for or against would be great x
    player 2: thanks, i'll go check him out
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    You know people don't like "interaction" or "Friends", they just want sp and phat loots!
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    It should be easy to navigate and find stuff in a city.

    The interaction you are talking about should take place in the overworld, looking for dungeons, monsters, ect..
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    Actually, do you know how long it took me to find Claroise in Ul'dah?! I only found the sneaky #&^$@ because I asked in shout where she was lol.
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    Yea many of those local leve NPC's are hard to find, I suggest using http://ffxiv.yg.com/ type the name of the NPC into the search and it will show you a map where the NPC is.

    Ideally SE should add corodinates or a better explanation where the NPC is located.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Yea many of those local leve NPC's are hard to find, I suggest using http://ffxiv.yg.com/ type the name of the NPC into the search and it will show you a map where the NPC is.

    Ideally SE should add corodinates or a better explanation where the NPC is located.
    In the game they show you wheir the NPC's are. Go to your journal pick the one you want then you go to MAP in lower left corner.
    SE shows you wheir to go for everything in this game.
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    i love interaction! We need more interaction in-game but please NOT about game basics.
    For game basics there should be tutorials. When i play a RPG i like to talk about related topics and not explaining controls and basics.

    Helping with quests and directions, now that's another story, it is more fun than getting told to look up tutorials.
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    Last edited by Randis; 03-31-2011 at 09:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randis View Post
    i love interaction! We need more interaction in-game but please NOT about game basics.
    For game basics there should be tutorials. When i play a RPG i like to talk about related topics and not explaining controls and basics.
    ^This.

    Obviously interaction between players is a big part of MMOs, but that interaction shouldn't be about basic things that the game should be telling you on its own.

    Not to mention that your example story, chime85, paints an overly optimistic and frankly unrealistic picture of how such interaction would go down. A far more likely scenario is this:

    player 1 : where i can find <random oil>?
    [long pause]
    player 1 : where i can find <random oil>?
    player 1 : ive been looking for some forever and i cant find any
    [long pause]
    player 1 : this is really frustrating -.-;;
    [long pause]
    player 1 : where i can find <random oil>?
    player 2 : check yg
    player 1 : whats yg?
    [long pause]
    player 1 : /cry ; ;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhianu View Post

    player 1 : where i can find <random oil>?
    [long pause]
    player 1 : where i can find <random oil>?
    player 1 : ive been looking for some forever and i cant find any
    [long pause]
    player 1 : this is really frustrating -.-;;
    [long pause]
    player 1 : where i can find <random oil>?
    player 2 : check yg
    player 1 : whats yg?
    [long pause]
    player 1 : /cry ; ;
    Agreed. I personally answer if I know, since I'm around black brush a lot and some questions pop up XD But the game should be playable, and by playable I mean any gamer should log in for the first time and know how to work his way around.
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    that was a nice duialogue , but reality is more like this

    Player 1 needs some random oil. he looks for NPC about 30 seconds. than starts shouting

    "I need that stupid <misspelled random oil name> giev to I nao!"

    he gets igonred for 20 seconds. Quites the game, goes to forum and starts wining and trolling about how the game sux, how wow is better, how carfting is broken, and how comunity blows.
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    Last edited by Lamhirh; 03-31-2011 at 10:19 PM.

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