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  1. #11
    Player Vackashken's Avatar
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    Vackashken Zuth
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    This list isn't leading at all...
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  2. #12
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    Shaone Abides
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    1. I understand some types of development cycle. I work as a software consultant/developer for a number of different companies/gov. agencies, generally going in at all points of the cycle to write specs, develop code, fix bugs or review implementations and architectures and make best practice recommendations or identify security flaws.
    2. Meaningful to who? Personally I prefer working with {well written/structured/patterned} but undocumented code (with decent unit tests), over {badly written/badly structured/no cohesive design patterns} code with volumes of documentation but no test cases.
    3. No.
    4. No, never heard that expression, and it also makes no logical sense to me. (I have heard something similar about having to crawl before you can walk, and having to walk before you can run, but not the particular variation in OP)
    5. No.

    So I can answer with a straight yes to none of them.
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  3. #13
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    Holy_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Holy Dragoon
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    1. Do you understand the basics of any development cycle (How long it takes/How it works)?
    A: Yes, having done study into game development in order to further my own personal interests.

    2. Do you think that the dev team, under Tanaka, included meaningful documentation in their code?
    A: It would only make sense that a professional team would do such a thing.

    3. Are you a major stock holder?
    A: No, I work for a living trying to get by in a tough world.

    4. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "we have to stand before we can walk"?
    A: Sure do, and it's a good reminder to people that the basics are sometimes needed. It is the reason things are rewritten and rebuilt, as sometimes the foundation is not sound.

    5. Have you, personally, seen ANY of the feedback submitted other than your own that was not on the forums?
    A: Yes many people share their feedback that they submit to SE. Our LS members have no qualms posting their personal feedback, or discussing it.

    I'm curious as to where this survey is going.
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  4. #14
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    SirEdeonX's Avatar
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    Edeon Vails
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    1. As a software engineer, I like to thing I do lol
    2. Although it does help, good programming should be clear without any documentation. But I think the devs at SE know how to comment the code and what it does. So, yes lol
    3. No
    4. I understand but I have no idea what you're relating that phrase to.
    5. I do not understand this question either. XD
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macha View Post
    1. Do you understand the basics of any development cycle (How long it takes/How it works)?
    2. Do you think that the dev team, under Tanaka, included meaningful documentation in their code?
    3. Are you a major stock holder?
    4. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "we have to stand before we can walk"?
    5. Have you, personally, seen ANY of the feedback submitted other than your own that was not on the forums?

    I can say "Yes" to only two of these questions.
    What about you?
    1; yes, i do. i am a programmer.

    2; yes they did. it is normal, and expected, that a real studio enforces programming styles so that every coder in the team can easily read the code from amongst eachother. their documentation is included within the code itself in the form of comments.

    3; no, i am poor.

    4; yes. i also understand the phrase, "if it ain't broken don't fix it.." hehe...

    5; don't understand. what feedback and to where or which other forums?...
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  6. #16
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    Eisen Marduk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macha View Post
    1. Do you understand the basics of any development cycle (How long it takes/How it works)?
    2. Do you think that the dev team, under Tanaka, included meaningful documentation in their code?
    3. Are you a major stock holder?
    4. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "we have to stand before we can walk"?
    5. Have you, personally, seen ANY of the feedback submitted other than your own that was not on the forums?

    I can say "Yes" to only two of these questions.
    What about you?
    1. I have seriously rudimentary knowledge of programming other than it takes awhile, so no to that.
    2. As per the previous point, I have no idea and neither can anyone else for that matter.
    3. No, and stockholders are the goddamn devil
    4. Of course, however that hardly has anything to do with being a customer.
    5. Yes, my LS used to discuss issues all the time.

    What does any of this have to do with wanting more information of the state of things?
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  7. #17
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    I thought the phrase was "crawl before you can walk" maybe not.
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  8. #18
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    Skieve Shadowfang
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    1. Do you understand the basics of any development cycle (How long it takes/How it works)?
    YES
    2. Do you think that the dev team, under Tanaka, included meaningful documentation in their code?
    YES
    3. Are you a major stock holder?
    YES
    4. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "we have to stand before we can walk"?
    YES
    5. Have you, personally, seen ANY of the feedback submitted other than your own that was not on the forums?
    YES



    So i score 5 yes , do i win something ?
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  9. #19
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    This all seems rather pointless to me.
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  10. #20
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macha View Post
    1. Do you understand the basics of any development cycle (How long it takes/How it works)?
    2. Do you think that the dev team, under Tanaka, included meaningful documentation in their code?
    3. Are you a major stock holder?
    4. Do you understand the meaning of the phrase "we have to stand before we can walk"?
    5. Have you, personally, seen ANY of the feedback submitted other than your own that was not on the forums?

    I can say "Yes" to only two of these questions.
    What about you?
    1. yes
    2. yes I do belive they have but instead of put it out, they might save it to expansion just my opinion
    3. no
    4.I dont want to
    5. I have make 2 suggess in the forum, and those point are sum from disscussion in the LS, 1 man opinion cannot conside as a serious feedback
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