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    Price History & Listing at 2.0

    I was waiting on this topic for a while but no one is really discuss about it. unless I missed it...
    [Grumble a little first]
    Since they said they are going to put up price history, I was against it because the following:
    1. a lot of annoying ppl just under cut on purpose by 1 gils (I don't usually undercut, but when I do I cut to 1/2 or 1/3.
    several times I cut to 1/5 and flooding the market continuously. XD
    2. easier for people to control the item price, such as some basic but necessary items. It's not because the mats are hard to get, but people just follow what the previous sell price and put it up. I really miss the old days people put up the price they feel like to not following who sold previously.

    Back to real things I want to ask and discuss.
    The price history of all the items will be saved and converted to 2.0? I several times backup the theory - economics will adjust back to the original price slowly. However, is it our responsibility to remember which item should be at which price or they will do it for us? I hope they do plan to save these data...

    Next is are the price history for each item going to be listed as 1/10 or original purchase price at 1.0?
    The following is not really complaining cus I can't win over the 1 gil under cutters. As I mention, if someone pissed me off with repeatedly undercut mine by 1 gil, I'll destroy the market and continuously adding the items with 1/2 to 1/5 price for weeks.
    I really wish they also have some way to change the market listing service, such as (I'm sorry but) XI style that hide some information (XI is hiding current listed prices) to make the selling and buying more strategically fun, not just cut 1 gil, like a coward, and expect people choose yours.
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    Last edited by Deli; 09-30-2012 at 09:00 AM.

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    yeah, price history is what i hated the most (more than leveling without party) in xi, it was like, you could never get gil, and you could never sell stuff, always really annoying. Id rather see what things is sold for now, not what it was 10 days ago. But then again, i also like playing the market, and even if i lose money doing so, its still an important part of the game ^^
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    I suspect the 1.0 price history will be completely scrapped. There's just no point in bringing it over.

    Anytime I see someone undercut by 1 or 10 gil, I skip over those.
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    So many changes anyway + World Transfer everywhere, new players joining, etc. Better just to scrap everything and that's most likely what will happen. ARR is supposed to be a new game... (at least that's how SE see it )
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    Probably would be too much work to transfer it over
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    New game, new auctions, new prices. No reason to drag anymore of 1.0 over than we have to.
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    I kind of doubt that current price histories will be recorded and kept for 2.0- this doesn't help the new servers anyway, since they won't have any price history.

    Gods people, please stop panicking and acting like we're all going to get priced into the poor house when 2.0 comes out. If people can't afford stuff, demand drops and so will the price. It's elementary economics and I wish people would stop bringing up this forsaken topic.
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    I was thinking... maybe SE can step in and, like government guild the economics to recover, put an MSRP price in the item history when 2.0 starts. MSRP price is calculated by the average of the NQ sell history across all servers, for example.

    For the listing part, I don't know what they already done. I can only, like everyone else does all the time, hopes "it will be better in 2.0".
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    Last edited by Deli; 09-30-2012 at 11:24 AM.

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    people wanted the MW's more like a AH. sell history kills the economy every time then people under cut. back in the old days no one knew what items for last so you were able to make your own price.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deli View Post
    I was thinking... maybe SE can step in and, like government guild the economics to recover, put an MSRP price in the item history when 2.0 starts. MSRP price is calculated by the average of the NQ sell history across all servers, for example.

    For the listing part, I don't know what they already done. I can only, like everyone else does all the time, hopes "it will be better in 2.0".
    dont need SE to be like a government they'll just set iron ore @2mill a piece and tax you 30% then make us pay taxes on firesday.
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    Last edited by indira; 09-30-2012 at 04:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deli View Post
    I was thinking... maybe SE can step in and, like government guild the economics to recover, put an MSRP price in the item history when 2.0 starts. MSRP price is calculated by the average of the NQ sell history across all servers, for example.

    For the listing part, I don't know what they already done. I can only, like everyone else does all the time, hopes "it will be better in 2.0".
    inb4 this turns into 2012 US election
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