Advance classes

[Elexia]

What i mean is a way to unlock new classes instead of just equiping a weapon. Make a quest or something to unlock new classes.

Sadly, people enjoy being locked into class = weapon xD It would be nice if it was more in XI style where you need to quest to unlock new classes/jobs, since it does still feel odd that equipping a weapon will immediately make you all encompassing of the class/job's talents, quests actually give you some sense of "training" lol.

[Inaaca]

What i mean is a way to unlock new classes instead of just equiping a weapon. Make a quest or something to unlock new classes.

Why? What's the point of arbitrarily making some classes harder to get than others? All classes should be viewed equally and treated as such.

I understand that FFXI did it with advanced jobs, but I don't think it made any sense then either.

[Babydoll]

Do not want.

This. More Jobs however...yes please.

[Elexia]

What's the point of handing everything to you? We can ride this slippery slope all night baby

[Inaaca]

What's the point of handing everything to you? We can ride this slippery slope all night baby

My point has absolutely nothing to do with whether things are easy or hard. It has to do with equality between classes, and the pointlessness of treating some of them like they're "advanced" when they really aren't.

[Jennestia]

Why? What's the point of arbitrarily making some classes harder to get than others? All classes should be viewed equally and treated as such.

I understand that FFXI did it with advanced jobs, but I don't think it made any sense then either.

The bolded is what makes MMORPGs boring and why every new class and race addition is boring after the first 20 minutes -- Class quests doesn't making something harder than others, it gives you content to do rather than going to an NPC and buying a weapon and tada! You're now a master of summoning primals.

If that's your kind of thing more power to you, but there luckily are still a lot of MMO gamers who like doing quests with a purpose.

[Elexia]

My point has absolutely nothing to do with whether things are easy or hard. It has to do with equality between classes, and the pointlessness of treating some of them like they're "advanced" when they really aren't.

You never played FFXI I'm guessing? Might be where your disconnect may be coming from. "Advanced" classes simply mean they're not basic already unlocked classes, they're something you have work toward.

Also no, jobs =/= advanced classes, they're an extension of it's base class, an advanced class is something you could only use after doing a quest. Given the way this game works, the only way that would be possible is to lock out crafted weapons to level 5+ and you can only get the 'weathered' weapon through the quest.

[Inaaca]

The bolded is what makes MMORPGs boring and why every new class and race addition is boring after the first 20 minutes -- Class quests doesn't making something harder than others, it gives you content to do rather than going to an NPC and buying a weapon and tada! You're now a master of summoning primals.

If that's your kind of thing more power to you, but there luckily are still a lot of MMO gamers who like doing quests with a purpose.

I'm not saying that it's better to have things handed to you. You're trying to make the same point as Elexia, when my point doesn't have to do with difficulty at all.

All classes should be treated equally. That doesn't mean make them easy to get or make them all the same. If all the classes were earned and unlocked through quests, that would be great, but it should be ALL of them or none of them, not just a random selection of classes for no reason.

There's no sense in making some classes easy to get and some classes hard to get when they should all be on a level playing field. That's why Jobs take more work to unlock because they're on a more advanced level than classes.

[Inaaca]

You never played FFXI I'm guessing? Might be where your disconnect may be coming from. "Advanced" classes simply mean they're not basic already unlocked classes, they're something you have work toward.

Also no, jobs =/= advanced classes, they're an extension of it's base class, an advanced class is something you could only use after doing a quest. Given the way this game works, the only way that would be possible is to lock out crafted weapons to level 5+ and you can only get the 'weathered' weapon through the quest.

I played plenty of FFXI back in the day. I also unlocked all the jobs while I was playing. Advanced classes is an awful terminology to use if you're not trying to imply that the class is advanced. I mean, c'mon now.

And Yoshi may not want us to think of jobs as advanced, and rather equal to classes, but y'know, they really are, at least with how the armoury system works out to right now. So yeah, Jobs are pretty much the advanced versions of classes for all intents and purposes with the current system.

[Myrhn]

Why? What's the point of arbitrarily making some classes harder to get than others? All classes should be viewed equally and treated as such.

Why all have to be the same? This would be ARR classes that weren't before for some reason so a background history while unlocking then would be nice. I'm not asking for super hard quest to unlock then maybe a running around or just talk to a NPC.