Thread: Clarification on Relic Quest in 2.0 in regards to Speed Runs

Originally Posted by indira

speed runs suck this is a MMO, not a racing game.

what about being an MMO excludes it from having elements where efficiency is key? players in every MMO ever made find ways to be more and more efficient at whatever they're doing. and it's not like the entire endgame is built around speed runs. nobody is forcing you to get all 5 chests every time. you don't fail the run if you don't do it in under 17 or 25 minutes.

do you somehow feel entitled to all 5 chests every time? that the conditions of popping one or more chests should more closely cater to your preferences?

Lets see if my ban has been lifted:

Hey fusional, you have to get 17 for relics. 25 min for like a 10% chance so your statement in relation to this thread and its topic is bat shit stupid.

they also need COMMENT about how they are going sort the rate &/or way the seals drop in hamlet, 46 hours GAMEPLAY TIME @ grid & no seals to show for it, getting close to the same amout of play time @ uldah.
Not complaining just telling it how it is!

Originally Posted by fusional

what about being an MMO excludes it from having elements where efficiency is key? players in every MMO ever made find ways to be more and more efficient at whatever they're doing. and it's not like the entire endgame is built around speed runs. nobody is forcing you to get all 5 chests every time. you don't fail the run if you don't do it in under 17 or 25 minutes.

do you somehow feel entitled to all 5 chests every time? that the conditions of popping one or more chests should more closely cater to your preferences?

You do realize you need to speed run CC/AV to even get a chance at the good shit, right? We're not talking about the relic speed runs, we're talking about regular speed runs that are damn near required if you want to see darklight.

Originally Posted by Elexia

Only word about Relic was:

"We'll monitor the rate in which Relics are being completed then go on from there" or something to that effect.

Erm, Relic are = Atomos is, and you have SE's last update /sarchasm

Speed runs suck not only here but in RPGs in general.

I hope the rebuilt battle system will allow for more strategy and diversity in battles so that they can reward smart playing instead of speedruns.

It also kills exploration and affects dungeon designs in a way that makes them less locations and more shallow mob tunnels.

I can do Toto-Rak speed run every time.

I forget where I saw the post, but I swear I read a dev post that said speed runs will be for achievements only.