Is the "Point Allotment" system necessary at all?

[Shougun]

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Ability/passive equip systems are a good idea as well. Having 4 bars full of abilities is distracting and counter productive to creating a functional strategy without using many addons or macros. (I realize you didn't mention active spells - but I wanted to add that in there since I felt they are easy to talk about at once)

I would be interested to hearing such a system - GW1/2, Diablo 3, are obvious examples of this system (for active abilities).

While D3 failed to make as many builds as it wanted*to make, it -did- make a couple builds quite viable even end game. Which is exciting - as it is now the only builds you get to do in FFXIV are item builds.

* D3 has had a recent patch to buff unused skills to make even more viable builds - haven't checked it out if it is true, but its good news for those who are still playing.

Obviously passives would be easier for the dev team to come up with - and still maintain a fairly FF feel. And if they did active selections like the above games did then they would have to greatly increase spell count for each class - which would probably feel less FF unless you were a blue mage.

(Passives are a lot like perks however, just able to switch them in and out easily unlike say WoW - though you may in D3)

[Ladon]

Ability/passive equip systems are a good idea as well. Having 4 bars full of abilities is distracting and counter productive to creating a functional strategy without using many addons or macros. (I realize you didn't mention active spells - but I wanted to add that in there since I felt they are easy to talk about at once)

I would be interested to hearing such a system - GW1/2, Diablo 3, are obvious examples of this system (for active abilities).

While D3 failed to make as many builds as it wanted*to make, it -did- make a couple builds quite viable even end game. Which is exciting - as it is now the only builds you get to do in FFXIV are item builds.

* D3 has had a recent patch to buff unused skills to make even more viable builds - haven't checked it out if it is true, but its good news for those who are still playing.

Obviously passives would be easier for the dev team to come up with - and still maintain a fairly FF feel. And if they did active selections like the above games did then they would have to greatly increase spell count for each class - which would probably feel less FF unless you were a blue mage.

(Passives are a lot like perks however, just able to switch them in and out easily unlike say WoW - though you may in D3)

Oh man an assignable passive ability system would be awesome. Make it character wide and you start off with a few slots and can expand the amount of slots via quests. Then they could do all kinds of things here. Passive ability reward for quests or from seasonal events. Heck they could even do something were you could learn the passive ability from AF and other equipment say via spirit bonding and then it becomes an equipable passive skill that could be used under any job you have.

Something like that could really make character customization meaningful.

[ejiboo]

really hoping they expand on character stat allocation and i'm excited to see how they're 'changing' stats with 2.0.

[Koroma_tanuki]

Is the "Point Allotment" system necessary at all?

If SE makes the stats worth a damn then yes it matters alot.

[NefGP]

Well, when I first heard about the armory system I was honestly hoping for something close to FFT's system, where you selected 1 job, picked the actions of another, and then had 3 different categories for passives. Tanaka & Komoto had originally intended for us to more or less create our own jobs, using the classes as templates. In that regard, I'm still a little sad about how things turned out.

Besides, as much as I'd love it, it'd be way too ridiculous to pick and choose what passives you got... I would love to take ARC's Accuracy & Crit Accuracy traits and slap them onto MRD.

[Shurrikhan]

Tanaka & Komoto had originally intended for us to more or less create our own jobs, using the classes as templates. In that regard, I'm still a little sad about how things turned out.

I wanted to see this done right... so... much. :_(

[Duelle]

I wanted to see this done right... so... much. :_(

Go read up on The Secret World. Its progression system is a slightly watered down version of what NefGP mentioned. Down to the "create your own class" with the way Decks have been implemented.

[Venat]

Well Actually I think my system is completely fine it just needs Group1,Group2,Group3 save slots for each job. Same way your actions are saved in your action menu. Saving few traits as a group would seem fine. Also cant change during combat.