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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombah View Post
    well said one of the few posts in here that was worth reading.
    I don't care about others using addons, up to the point that it becomes "mandatory" - per my guild/linkshell leader - to use one or I can't do the raid with them. Then it is affecting me.

    And I'm quite sure you and Molly_Millions wouldn't be so tolerant of "how others play the game" if you found someone you were competing with for a mob, or a major claim, were using a bot to do so - assuming neither of you were using one yourselves. I'm pretty certain you'd have a very different outlook on "how others play the game" then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I don't care about others using addons, up to the point that it becomes "mandatory" - per my guild/linkshell leader - to use one or I can't do the raid with them. Then it is affecting me.

    And I'm quite sure you and Molly_Millions wouldn't be so tolerant of "how others play the game" if you found someone you were competing with for a mob, or a major claim, were using a bot to do so - assuming neither of you were using one yourselves. I'm pretty certain you'd have a very different outlook on "how others play the game" then.
    Always using the same argument over and over. Again what forces you to play in a guild where addons are mandatory? Oh yeah nothing. Lead your own raid/guild then or join one that do not require addons to be mandatory.

    How hard is that? It's hard to understand what you are afraid of. Afraid of losing your friends who will force you to have addons if you want to raid with them? Afraid of being left behind on progression?
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    On topic: yes.
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    I'm willing to bet those against DBM type addon for FFXIV ARR would end up using said DBM type addon eventually....

    Keep in on the down lo tho, ya kno?
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    Some would, some wouldn't.

    Personally I never used it in WoW. I never felt like it really gave me an edge when I knew what was coming anyway.
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    I played wow a long time ago and during raids I did use boss mods and they were extremely helpful. So putting wow aside I would use DBM if they made one for ffxiv.
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    If DBM is here, youve created wow, just a gimp version of it, if you enjoy wow, and you play this, your an idiot. SE does not and will never have the resources they need to have to create said content "based around having (Bots), DBM is a bot".

    If not having add-ons (bots) makes content a 10 in difficulty because its built around not having it, having bots put into the game without breaking tos and content being based around it still makes it a 10 in difficulty because the bots compensate you did nothing.

    People saying the bots dont play for you because they just tell you want to do, they dont actually perform the action. The difference that I see is they make you not have to think as much, you think your multitasking but your just watching multiple warnings. I see DBM as an anti-tunnel vision tool, that is it, people that get tunnel vision can still win, it takes that aspect away, the only thing you have to really look for are raid warnings.

    I am 100% against anything wow-related but these threads are getting a bit annoying, it wont change anything, just like regional servers, SE already owns them, theyve also had this crap in mind for months and months, its all already there, its going to happen, if they change anything it would push 2.0 back further which i doubt they could afford, SE seems to think this game can/will be the new WoW, which will not happen, they cannot even advertise... like at all, if i turn to any channel, I wont see a commercial. This games entire population equals some more recent games alpha testers in total.

    The only real question I have is to what degree will they allow addons, what process do you have to go through to get an addon added as an official addon or w/e, what will they allow, where will SE/Yoshi draw the line.

    Just waiting around for 2.0, giving it a month (free trial), holding some small bit of hope that it wont be gimp-wow but knowing it will be. When all of the actual FF fans are gone, and all thats left is WoW-tards who are to dumb to get that wow is better than another wow-clone, I will gladly watch the FF series finally die, it should have after FF11 (their last decent game). They should have realized a long time ago that the only reason SE stayed alive with its (Final Fantasy) is because of the minority, not the other 70% yelling for wow.
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    Last edited by Jeronlmo; 09-26-2012 at 04:57 AM.

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    if you call add-ons bots, *you're* an idiot

    emphasis on *you're*
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    I don't like either side of the argument.
    I just need a turtle
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    Make fun of my grammar all you want, idc, im not in an english class right now, im at work, its still a bot.
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