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  1. #31
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    They made a hotfix at first with the clusters. If they had believed at that time that dawn drops were being abused they would have done so.

    Really the case goes two ways, either they thought dawn drop abuse was not rampant enough to warrant a fix or they weren't aware of it.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    They made a hotfix at first with the clusters. If they had believed at that time that dawn drops were being abused they would have done so.

    Really the case goes two ways, either they thought dawn drop abuse was not rampant enough to warrant a fix or they weren't aware of it.
    Either way - they obviously dont agree with whats happening so they are changing it.

    But they are slow to respond, tentive to respond, whatever word. Just like what happened with Garuda - were a bunch of people did really easy fights and got loaded with her weapons. Now everyone else has to slowly climb the mountain as the BLM burns giggle at you because they got to keep theirs.

    Now this is partly due to information I didnt know previously, apparently they were on a really important holiday week; however, when they came back they should have fixed what had happened.

    Not "Well the dam flooded your village, but hey at least I stopped the dam from leaking". lol
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-21-2012 at 07:53 AM.

  3. #33
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    How about they just do the fix they did and have that be it. I used the dawn drop "exploit" (not really an exploit), but it didn't make me filthy rich...it made me NOT broke. While everyone is talking about how they just blew 20 mil trying to triple-meld, I've never HAD 20 mil (and still don't). I loved this event 'cause it gave me a chance to get a LITTLE bit of spending money. Gil sinks are coming in 2.0 (housing, chocobo raising, etc), there's no need to take away anyone's gil no matter how they got it.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    How about they just do the fix they did and have that be it. I used the dawn drop "exploit" (not really an exploit), but it didn't make me filthy rich...it made me NOT broke. While everyone is talking about how they just blew 20 mil trying to triple-meld, I've never HAD 20 mil (and still don't). I loved this event 'cause it gave me a chance to get a LITTLE bit of spending money. Gil sinks are coming in 2.0 (housing, chocobo raising, etc), there's no need to take away anyone's gil no matter how they got it.
    Its great to give people spending money - but if you where serious about this event you could have made living for the next few expansions kind of money. Specially in the beginning when crystal stacks where ~5K - you could hilariously making a few mil off their stack. (You could make ~600K off the 12K stack crystals)

    (This is consistent and really safe unlike the usual farming of materia or mats.)

    I've never had 20 mil either.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Its great to give people spending money - but if you where serious about this event you could have made living for the next few expansions kind of money. Specially in the beginning when crystal stacks where ~5K - you could hilariously making a few mil off their stack. (You could make ~600K off the 12K stack crystals)

    (This is consistent and really safe unlike the usual farming of materia or mats.)

    I've never had 20 mil either.
    Yeah, but the way to do that was to sell the crystals in the market wards, which isn't creating new gil, and therefore isn't causing any kind of inflation. I grinded my way to the 500k seal achievement, and I know from doing that, that making big money off dawn drops is NOT something to be worried about. It takes FOREVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    Yeah, but the way to do that was to sell the crystals in the market wards, which isn't creating new gil, and therefore isn't causing any kind of inflation. I grinded my way to the 500k seal achievement, and I know from doing that, that making big money off dawn drops is NOT something to be worried about. It takes FOREVER.
    Takes a long time but thats what bots* are for, specially if you are an rmt. Get each one of your alts to be running the same script with a stack of crystals/seals. Damn. Thats a lot of gil.

    * Dont use bots they are illegal
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Also RMT's are loving this event, every player gets a free 5K from this event. SE gave every rmt alt named adfhasdkljf asdkjfasdkjfe ~1/2 mil.
    Since your feathers are already super ruffled, I thought I would let you in on a tidbit that will really make your blood boil.

    If you're a recruit, and you haven't pledged to any nation yet, you can get 5k from EACH nation! That's a free 15k!

    But hey, great idea, let's roll back and take player's equipment away even if they've NPC'd one dawn drop. And just to make sure we've got all the gil back, let's double the penalty for all characters starting with the letter 'W'!!!
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    Since your feathers are already super ruffled, I thought I would let you in on a tidbit that will really make your blood boil.

    If you're a recruit, and you haven't pledged to any nation yet, you can get 5k from EACH nation! That's a free 15k!

    But hey, great idea, let's roll back and take player's equipment away even if they've NPC'd one dawn drop. And just to make sure we've got all the gil back, let's double the penalty for all characters starting with the letter 'W'!!!
    I never suggested 1 dawn drop = off with your head. I said that all sold dawn drops would be returned (losing the gil gained but getting the seals back).

    Learn to read 'W'!!! You can roll back parts of data and leave other parts.

    If they have the tools to do what I said then its no problem; however, someone made a good point that they probably have some pretty shitty server manipulation tools* - and thus be impossible (or almost so).

    * Logical that they wouldnt add too many features to a system that will get scrapped, but I really hope they dont skimp on their server side tools for 2.0
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-21-2012 at 09:57 AM.

  9. #39
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    This thread reminded me of a song I haven't heard in ages.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA67y3mqjMs
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    @OP erm hated stupid atomos thing as much as anyone...did it....1.0 people that didnt bother to make any cash now have a questionably deserved cash head start in 2.0. It's fixed don't be so silly
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