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    Auction House vs Wards

    Q: Will you improve the stress related to retainer placement in the markets and the constant Ul’dah crashes?

    A: We completely rebuilt the servers from the ground up, so we’d like to have everyone stress test during the Alpha test to see how many people we can put into a single server and determine how we should split up the server. In regards to the market, we are also revamping this completely. Since there were difficulties making all of the retainers visible, we are planning for large scale improvements so you can search more specifically and also make it so you can display only the things you are interested in within a ward.
    Letter from producer III Q&A (above)...

    Basically, what's the point??? Anyone serious about making gil via public sales: Ul'dah wards is the ONLY place you want to put your retainer. IMO waste of developmental time, scrap the wards & retainers.

    Centralize the market system into 1 market with global server access from major cities.

    Pros:
    Promotes competitive pricing.
    Prevent headaches of getting retainer into wards.
    Makes items more likely to sell for more current pricing.
    Easier on developers.

    Cons:
    QQ by people who says "just like all other MMO, not original!"


    Why current system fails:
    3 major cities... but you have access to all markethouse from each.. if you had only access to markethouse of the current city would make more players sell in that city but since there is access to uldah market from LL/Grid why not conveniently access and sell/buy there where have more items posted.

    Scrap this crap - AH is just for gil/items. Spend more time on real game content.
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    Unfortunately I'm inclined to agree. There will be people who come back to this game to give it a second shot, after having had a horrible taste from launch, see that retainers and wards are still in the game and immediately quit.
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    Honestly if they keep the MW in 2.0 and not give us an alternative, simple and flexible system, I'm probably just going to say f**k it. I've avoided the MW in 1.0 like a plague because they're awful to use. And also they're a plague.
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    I can use MW easy enough.
    Finding +1s thats my only problem
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    Its one of tanakas design ideas they're still unfortunately clinging to
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    I have a better idea!! Instead of working on MW version 2.0, how about a Salon where players can redo their hairstyles/hair color, etc! I'm pretty sure that'd give the game way more appeal than ward system.. Drop in AH and salon & /gg

    Also fix so we can buy items from the AH and not get kicked out after purchase.. like wtf whose idea was that? You dont goto the supermarket and they tell you to reenter to buy more than 1 item.. (>_> wtf
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    Last edited by Mujen; 09-15-2012 at 11:06 PM.

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    Cons:QQ by people who says "just like all other MMO, not original!"
    Also there is nothing "original" about the market wards. The Devs just borrowed that idea from EQ1 and EQ2. It's been a very long time, but I want to remember EQ1 had a market ward where you stand your character in to sell your stuff. You had to purchase a special bazaar bag and load it up with what you want to sell. Other players can search for items and they are spun in your direction if they want to find you. EQ2 had that AH & market board/crate system. Players can search for an item and they can avoid additional fees if they went and visit the seller's apartment/house. Also sellers can reduce broker fees if they use certain player crafted selling crates.

    Well if they continue using the current market ward system, maybe they can institute a broker fee to encourage an even population of retainers across all the cities. If one city has more then 40% of all active retainers in the game, then force an insanely high broker fee to encourage players to place their retainers in the less populated cities. Maybe offer no transaction fees at all for the city with the least amount of active retainers.
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    Thank you SE for keeping the markets wards. Glad that SE stood it's ground about market wards and not switching to an AH. This is not FFXI. If you want an AH take your arse back to XI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubina View Post
    Also there is nothing "original" about the market wards. The Devs just borrowed that idea from EQ1 and EQ2. It's been a very long time, but I want to remember EQ1 had a market ward where you stand your character in to sell your stuff. You had to purchase a special bazaar bag and load it up with what you want to sell. Other players can search for items and they are spun in your direction if they want to find you. EQ2 had that AH & market board/crate system. Players can search for an item and they can avoid additional fees if they went and visit the seller's apartment/house. Also sellers can reduce broker fees if they use certain player crafted selling crates.

    Well if they continue using the current market ward system, maybe they can institute a broker fee to encourage an even population of retainers across all the cities. If one city has more then 40% of all active retainers in the game, then force an insanely high broker fee to encourage players to place their retainers in the less populated cities. Maybe offer no transaction fees at all for the city with the least amount of active retainers.
    Srsly tho why put so much work into a system that isn't the main focus of the game? Your idea is a good one btw, I just see it as a waste of time that could go into better & bigger parts of the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titans View Post
    Thank you SE for keeping the markets wards. Glad that SE stood it's ground about market wards and not switching to an AH. This is not FFXI. If you want an AH take your arse back to XI.
    You sir, suck.. Developers spending more time on wards or more time on content... Hmmm... which is better? TOUGH CHOICE! (obvious sarcasm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujen View Post
    Srsly tho why put so much work into a system that isn't the main focus of the game? Your idea is a good one btw, I just see it as a waste of time that could go into better & bigger parts of the game.



    You sir, suck.. Developers spending more time on wards or more time on content... Hmmm... which is better? TOUGH CHOICE! (obvious sarcasm)
    What? No sir you suck. No one complains about the wards but you FFXI players. This game been around for 2 years with the wards in it, why change it. "I can't get my retainer in Ul'dah". So put them in another city why don't you?
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