Auto Attack wins!

[Spuffin]

Ehh i'll wait till i see it.

I want my guild marks for heavy attacks back though.

>:[

in order for SE to fix the game in it's current state everyone is going to hvae to accept their new and improved changes even if it will have the consequence of losing possible accomplishments/progress. I am all for any new changes that SE decides to dish out. If all of you want to support this game then we all have to accept and live with what might come forth.

[Alcide]

At least give it a shot first. We still don't know all the details, try it before claiming it fails and quit >.>

The lack of AA was the core of the game, it gave tactics to solo fights, to party fights, to BR, to stamina control, to TP control EVERYTHING.

The point is not that the new battle system can be good, the point is that I loved it before and everything is gonna get scrapped while it could be improved. And I can tell you I'm not the only one thinking this way, just take a look at the forums... what's the highest rank of those against AA? and of those in favor?

And this because come people thought that trying out something new was too difficult, while whining is much easier...

[Lamhirh]

@solracht how autoattack will make gamaplay feel more active?

[kukurumei]

So what's the argument against auto-attack, exactly? Are people worried about lack of involvement during battles? That is not related to having or not having auto-attack at all. There are plenty of MMORPGs which are more involved and spammy than FFXIV yet have auto-attack. The key part: the damage from auto-attack is not as significant as in FFXI, and it's your special abilities that make the difference in battles.

Matsui himself said that you would not be able to win by only letting your character auto-attack, and he actually mentioned that he wanted to avoid FFXI and FFXIV auto-attack comparsions, which makes me think auto-attack is going to be the same as in other MMORPGs: something that doesn't contribute much to your overall damage, but that makes the combat feel more fluid and faster.

In the end, you're probably going to be left with the system you have right now (where your actions do matter) but with more animations.

Well there's no such thing as a non effective auto attack. There's such a thing as stat baseline. It just puts more faith in stats then it is to your finger dexterity.

No way in heck has auto attack ever won battles without user intervention. I'm not sure where they got that idea from. Auto attack has pretty much matured in MMO with it's own features.

If you want to beat down a non challenging trash monster, then that's practically FF14. Almost everything is a trash monster. Not sure how auto attack comes into it.

[Akira]

im jw how auto attack is going to work with archers multishot and trifuricate abilities

[Keith_Dragoon]

Well I'm glad I played the game when it was fun.

Can't say it yet, but I've got the feeling I'm gonna quit after the battle system patch >.>
Have fun in you new FFXI-2/WoW-Clone/Whatever.

If this is how you feel before even seeing what all is in the upcoming battle updates and actually see how it is then I guess you do what you do and enjoy yourself wherever you do end up.

I would atleast wait until I hear more, see more, feel more before making a wild assumption about the unknown.

[kukurumei]

im jw how auto attack is going to work with archers multishot and trifuricate abilities

Obviously there will be a score of ability changing/axing/adding.

It was a given that after the battle overhaul, no one is going to play the same way.

[Alcide]

/goodbye

/10char

Hey smartass, remember when people used to say "you don't like the game? don't play" and they were answering that square enix needed them?

Guess what, it's the same situation.
I'm not the only one pissed off about this, there will be a lot of complaints in the next days and I bet a lot of people that's playng now are gonna quit too.
And now what? we don't count anything? Does SE only need people thinking like you?
Oh sure, we tried hard to understan a system that at the beginning seemed stupid, but after a while turned out great, but listening to those that gave up at the beginning and don't know a crap about what they're saying sounds like a much better idea...

[Grit]

im jw how auto attack is going to work with archers multishot and trifuricate abilities

I'm sure it's been taken into account. Some people may not like this, but there's a good chance that combat will eventually be drastically different from what it is now.

As far as multishot and trifuricate go, it would be pretty easy to integrate them into the auto attack system without losing any of the gameplay that you enjoy. Button to pause auto attack.. button to resume auto attack.

[Alcide]

If this is how you feel before even seeing what all is in the upcoming battle updates and actually see how it is then I guess you do what you do and enjoy yourself wherever you do end up.

I would atleast wait until I hear more, see more, feel more before making a wild assumption about the unknown.

Uhm, coz you mean that at rank20 you tried the current battle system enough so you can say for sure that it totally sucks and only because of the lack of AA?? No, you and the others gave up and started complaining, can't I do the same now?