Auto Attack wins!

[Kaedan]

That's what I said and you replied with "FU Alexia."

Yes, because you made an unfounded insult in an effort to deflect the conversation, or just to be mean-spirited. I'm honestly not sure.

AA is lazy..... really? Come on you say you played FFXI for 6 years even with such a horrible and un-involved battle system. I think you are taking a very extreme one sided stance on this. Sure people can be lazy with AA, but they can be just as lazy mashing 1 or maybe not even doing that and doing nothing at all. AA or no AA is not going to change bad players, if you come across a player like that you have 2 choices either try to teach them better ways of using the system or if you really can't put up with it kick them from the party.

Yeah, I played jobs that didn't rely on me AAing to get my TP up to do damage. The point is, if you were a job that was required to get TP to do your primary damage, it was extremely boring (with the exception of Sam and Dnc obviously... SE saw that it was boring people and added other ways to get TP). And people who wanted to be lazy were attracted to those jobs. It got progressively better as you leveled and as SE released expansions, but for a long period of time (and at low levels), it was just a mess.

I would like AA mainly to allow me to socialise with my party and not have my DPS drop to 0 while I reply to a message. That doesn't make me lazy, I can be in a grind party for hours in FFXIV and hardly a word is spoken because people are to busy pressing all the buttons to keep everything going. If you stop to type something then your DPS stops so nobody talks much until we take a break. FFXI had a great social scene and people were generally very chatty, well in my experience anyway and for me FFXIV is not like that and I believe one of the main reasons for that is because the battle system is too involved.

See, this is the sort of thing that is good for discussion.

Personally, this is a moot point for me. I use Vent, so I can communicate even with the fast pace of combat. And SE could implement voice chat so that even people without Vent could communicate. Sure, there would be people without mics, but as long as they can listen it works.

Also keep in mind that there are parties that are more "business than pleasure" sort of parties. They would rather focus on putting out as much damage as possible and not waste time talking about things that aren't pertinent to the battle.

Though your point is valid, and since they are definitely adding AA, you'll get your wish.

If you had read my earlier posts, I am ok with this, as long as it's not done as poorly as it was in FFXI. As long as they can keep battles interesting, I won't mind.

[gifthorse]

Every day FFXIV becomes more and more like WoW.

[Aion]

Every day FFXIV becomes more and more like WoW.

oh, WoW invented autoattack? why I didnt know that......

[Kaedan]

oh, WoW invented autoattack? why I didnt know that......

I don't think he's referring specifically to AA, but the direction the game is headed.

[Betelgeuzah]

oh, WoW invented autoattack? why I didnt know that......

Doesn't matter who invented it. WoW made it known to the wide audience, other games did not. That's what matters.

[Aion]

Doesn't matter who invented it. WoW made it known to the wide audience, other games did not. That's what matters.

erm...Im sorry but here in Asia all the MMORPG(Korean) have autoattack....I dunno about western MMORPG...

[Vicious]

Every day FFXIV becomes more and more like WoW.

People also say that its becoming XI-2, and well FFXI and WoW are nothing alike so i think its more a case of "people will b**** about anything"

[gifthorse]

People also say that its becoming XI-2, and well FFXI and WoW are nothing alike so i think its more a case of "people will b**** about anything"

I consider them to be rather similar, comparatively speaking.

[Kaedan]

People also say that its becoming XI-2, and well FFXI and WoW are nothing alike so i think its more a case of "people will b**** about anything"

Actually, seeing as how WoW was partially based off the FFXI playstyle (which was in turn similar to the EQ playstyle, which WoW also based itself off), there are similarities. Though over time, WoW destroyed itself by making bad decisions in an attempt to attract a wider demographic and alienated a large portion of gamers.

I think the point is, we don't want to see FFXI-2 and we don't want to see FF: the WoW Chronicles. They are not mutually exclusive man.

[Evenstar]

Actually, seeing as how WoW was partially based off the FFXI playstyle (which was in turn similar to the EQ playstyle, which WoW also based itself off), there are similarities. Though over time, WoW destroyed itself by making bad decisions in an attempt to attract a wider demographic and alienated a large portion of gamers.

I think the point is, we don't want to see FFXI-2 and we don't want to see FF: the WoW Chronicles. They are not mutually exclusive man.

Totally agree there. WoW was really a nice game when it was released, but every single expansion made the game easier to attract a wider public. WoW did exactly what FFXI is doing now.