Auto Attack wins!

[ChiefCurrahee]

Yes, actually, that's exactly what many people think. And in fact, it was a huge problem in FFXI.

If you play most melee jobs in FFXI, this is how combat goes: Wait for 100% TP > macro. Wait > macro. Wait > macro. And all that waiting is just watching your character auto attack until they have TP again. It's BORING. AS. HELL.

And it's an excuse for many people to do something else while playing, like watching TV.

I'm just hoping they learned from their mistakes in FFXI and find a way to implement AA decently... but I'm not holding my breath.

FFXI auto attack is boring. and the TP system in that game didn't help. Neither did long cool down timers.
In FFXI if you remember if you had anything over 100 TP you lost it ALL using a WS.

In FFXIV we keep what ever is left over, if we have 1756TP and a skill costs 1000 TP we have 756 left over and 1 attack later we are able to do another WS. I doubt they will change that aspect of it.
THe combat pacing will be much faster.

The auto attack won't be FFXI repeat it will be FFXI- evolved, making it FFXIV's auto attack.


Before you all cry the sky is falling, why not see what's up first.

[Keith_Dragoon]

FFXI auto attack is boring. and the TP system in that game didn't help. Neither did long cool down timers.
In FFXI if you remember if you had anything over 100 TP you lost it ALL using a WS.

In FFXIV we keep what ever is left over, if we have 1756TP and a skill costs 1000 TP we have 756 left over and 1 attack later we are able to do another WS. I doubt they will change that aspect of it.
THe combat pacing will be much faster.

The auto attack won't be FFXI repeat it will be FFXI- evolved, making it FFXIV's auto attack.


Before you all cry the sky is falling, why not see what's up first.

Exactly what I was trying to say. <3

[Grit]

Before you all cry the sky is falling, why not see what's up first.

inorite? It could be raining Skittles.

[Chezen]

I'm more interested in the hints of the new battle system than I am the actual news itself. It's really nice to finally get to see some feedback on it, small as it is. I'm pretty excited.^^

[Keith_Dragoon]

I'm more interested in the hints of the new battle system than I am the actual news itself. It's really nice to finally get to see some feedback on it, small as it is. I'm pretty excited.^^

Me too, I want to know what exactly they have planned that makes AA fit so well into their design.

Oh, let me guess? Samurai? That's why I said "most melee jobs". Samurai and Thief were exceptions.

It's great that you play the game to have conversations... some people actually play the game to play the game.

Dragoon and Blue Mage(this one doesn't count since I cast alot) >.>

Warrior is the only job that would fit into the waiting for tp > WS category, every other class has spells and JA that occupies your time instead of mindlessly auto attacking.

[kukurumei]

Me too, I want to know what exactly they have planned that makes AA fit so well into their design.



Dragoon and Blue Mage(this one doesn't count since I cast alot) >.>

Warrior is the only job that would fit into the waiting for tp > WS category, every other class has spells and JA that occupies your time instead of mindlessly auto attacking.

Not even warrior. Warriors had to be war/nins or war/thfs, or war/plds. None of those were wait for TP roles. Not unless you were "NA".

The only job that could have potentially been in the category was monk, but even monk changed as the game matured.

There was very little passiveness in FF11. And even dare say how bad it would be if you didn't communicate. It was very interactive in the same way you have to be stranded on a desert island with 5 other people. Nothing worked unless you combined your strengths...

...Of course that why the term "NA" stuck with FF11 for its life time. If you were a introvert that only did the minimum, you were shunned from society.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Not even warrior. Warriors had to be war/nins or war/thfs, or war/plds. None of those were wait for TP roles. Not unless you were "NA".

The only job that could have potentially been in the category was monk, but even monk changed as the game matured.

There was very little passiveness in FF11. And even dare say how bad it would be if you didn't communicate. It was very interactive in the same way you have to be stranded on a desert island with 5 other people. Nothing worked unless you combined your strengths...

...Of course that why the term "NA" stuck with FF11 for its life time. If you were a introvert that only did the minimum, you were shunned from society.

I was mainly thinking of main job abilities so yea with sub-jobs there was no point in being uninvolved unless you are already bored with the game in the first place. I never had a dull moment (until abyssea) in all of my years playing ffxi and I spent most of my time in parties helping people or leveling.

[trinta]

Yeah, but see, I haven't found a way to say anything to anyone while still really being effective in combat in XIV. Having auto-attack will let me feel like I can spend two or three seconds typing a sentence.

If that makes someone mad, frankly, they should probably look into hobbies that don't involve other people.

[Keith_Dragoon]

Yeah, but see, I haven't found a way to say anything to anyone while still really being effective in combat in XIV. Having auto-attack will let me feel like I can spend two or three seconds typing a sentence.

If that makes someone mad, frankly, they should probably look into hobbies that don't involve other people.

I was never for AA but that was my only reason I wouldn't be made if we got it, now I can say something without standing there looking brain dead for a few seconds.

[solracht]

The bad AA implementation in FFXI encouraged bad gameplay by bad players.

Are you implying that people do their best in FFXIV right now? Take a look around the next time you group for guildleves or grind on raptors, you might be surprised by the suspiciously slow stamina regen (or even TP generation) some people seem to have!