Auto Attack wins!

[Alcide]

Well I'm glad I played the game when it was fun.

Can't say it yet, but I've got the feeling I'm gonna quit after the battle system patch >.>
Have fun in you new FFXI-2/WoW-Clone/Whatever.

[Sojiro]

Well I'm glad I played the game when it was fun.

Can't say it yet, but I've got the feeling I'm gonna quit after the battle system patch >.>
Have fun in you new FFXI-2/WoW-Clone/Whatever.

At least give it a shot first. We still don't know all the details, it could turn out to be good.

[Alcide]

At least give it a shot first. We still don't know all the details, try it before claiming it fails and quit >.>

The lack of AA was the core of the game, it gave tactics to solo fights, to party fights, to BR, to stamina control, to TP control EVERYTHING.

The point is not that the new battle system can be good, the point is that I loved it before and everything is gonna get scrapped while it could be improved. And I can tell you I'm not the only one thinking this way, just take a look at the forums... what's the highest rank of those against AA? and of those in favor?

And this because come people thought that trying out something new was too difficult, while whining is much easier...

[Kaedan]

The lack of AA was the core of the game, it gave tactics to solo fights, to party fights, to BR, to stamina control, to TP control EVERYTHING.

The point is not that the new battle system can be good, the point is that I loved it before and everything is gonna get scrapped while it could be improved. And I can tell you I'm not the only one thinking this way, just take a look at the forums... what's the highest rank of those against AA? and of those in favor?

And this because come people thought that trying out something new was too difficult, while whining is much easier...

That is a worry I have. We will lose significant amounts of control in fights (at least mages will). In FFXI, I was ok with AA as a mage, since I had to be in melee range for it to work. I could sleep mobs and take care of crowd control without worrying about accidentally waking stuff up with a melee attack.

But with FFXIV, my AA is ranged. Since I have to have my weapon out to cast spells, it's going to be extremely annoying if AA wakes it up. There had better be a way to turn it off, is all I'm saying.

Additionally, people are going to pay less attention now, so I'll also have to worry about their dumb ***es. And we can't use the facing trick, since FFXIV makes you auto-face the enemy you're attacking... *sigh* I'm less and less thrilled with this as I think about it.

[ChiefCurrahee]

That is a worry I have. We will lose significant amounts of control in fights (at least mages will). In FFXI, I was ok with AA as a mage, since I had to be in melee range for it to work. I could sleep mobs and take care of crowd control without worrying about accidentally waking stuff up with a melee attack.

But with FFXIV, my AA is ranged. Since I have to have my weapon out to cast spells, it's going to be extremely annoying if AA wakes it up. There had better be a way to turn it off, is all I'm saying.

Additionally, people are going to pay less attention now, so I'll also have to worry about their dumb ***es. And we can't use the facing trick, since FFXIV makes you auto-face the enemy you're attacking... *sigh* I'm less and less thrilled with this as I think about it.

OMG! do you really think thats how it will work?

You have your weapon drawn and you target a mob and you start to pew pew instantly?

NO!

I can guarantee you it will be:
1) draw weapon
2) target mob
3) initiate combat (auto attack)
4) if you need to stop combat you either a) stop auto attack or b) sheath weapon
5) you will still execute skills and abilities as you do now.

and for the facing issue, I'm sure they can code in that engaging with AA doesn't have the autofacing feature enabled. That it's a feature only used for skills/spells/abilities.

They just aren't going to slap Auto Attack in there and be done with it.

[Alcide]

They just aren't going to slap Auto Attack in there and be done with it.

Ok, so let's think about what we have right now that can't work with AA.
- mostly all the buffing skills
- auto-facing
- stamina gauge
- TP management (including TP buffing skills)
- BR
- normal attack's damage
- normal attack's variations

This is only about AA, without counting all of the changes they are gonna make that don't concern the battle system (armory system, stat points, physical level...). They also said they can't tell us anything yet coz they're still testing (wich makes me think that they don't know yet)
Add the fact that we don't have any real content, when are we gonna play the real game? 2050?

How is scrapping everything istead of improving what we already have the best solution??
And Yoshida said we are gonna see the first changes in spring... If it's not just an AA thrown in the current system I bet he was talking about spring 2012

[Spuffin]

Well I'm glad I played the game when it was fun.

Can't say it yet, but I've got the feeling I'm gonna quit after the battle system patch >.>
Have fun in you new FFXI-2/WoW-Clone/Whatever.

/goodbye

/10char

[Alcide]

/goodbye

/10char

Hey smartass, remember when people used to say "you don't like the game? don't play" and they were answering that square enix needed them?

Guess what, it's the same situation.
I'm not the only one pissed off about this, there will be a lot of complaints in the next days and I bet a lot of people that's playng now are gonna quit too.
And now what? we don't count anything? Does SE only need people thinking like you?
Oh sure, we tried hard to understan a system that at the beginning seemed stupid, but after a while turned out great, but listening to those that gave up at the beginning and don't know a crap about what they're saying sounds like a much better idea...

[TheVedis]

Hey smartass, remember when people used to say "you don't like the game? don't play" and they were answering that square enix needed them?

Guess what, it's the same situation.
I'm not the only one pissed off about this, there will be a lot of complaints in the next days and I bet a lot of people that's playng now are gonna quit too.
And now what? we don't count anything? Does SE only need people thinking like you?
Oh sure, we tried hard to understan a system that at the beginning seemed stupid, but after a while turned out great, but listening to those that gave up at the beginning and don't know a crap about what they're saying sounds like a much better idea...

if you want change, your opinion doesnt matter
if you dont want change, your opinion doesnt matter
if you like something, too bad it needs to be changed
if you hate it, too bad you get what you get

get used to these comments all over forums

but seriously, auto attack and change to stamina wont mean too much if done right, it doesnt make anything a clone, or more unique

ill reserve judgement for when it all comes in and we see it first hand what they are doing

[Keith_Dragoon]

Well I'm glad I played the game when it was fun.

Can't say it yet, but I've got the feeling I'm gonna quit after the battle system patch >.>
Have fun in you new FFXI-2/WoW-Clone/Whatever.

If this is how you feel before even seeing what all is in the upcoming battle updates and actually see how it is then I guess you do what you do and enjoy yourself wherever you do end up.

I would atleast wait until I hear more, see more, feel more before making a wild assumption about the unknown.