Dearest Square Enix, about this 15 minute timer...

[Mijin]

Please get rid of it okay?

Just kidding I know you never will, but boy do I sure hate it. At least it isn't as bad as FFXI I guess...

[whoopeeragon]

Wait....you want to give people a greater opportunity and excuse to spam content? I thought that was what ARR is trying to get rid of?

[Jynx]

Please get rid of it okay?

I agree we should replace it with a hour timer. Sounds good to me.

[Mijin]

Wait....you want to give people a greater opportunity and excuse to spam content? I thought that was what ARR is trying to get rid of?

Yeah, we definitely don't want to encourage people to play the game; that would be bad. If someone gets home from work or something and only has four hours to play before they have to go to bed, we should definitely force them to spend half (or more) of their play time twiddling their thumbs.

Incase you couldn't tell that was me being facetious and sarcastic.

Let's be honest here, most of the people who play this game are adults. Even though some of them don't act like it lol. We don't need someone to try to force us to take a break from the game. In the case that a player isn't an adult, it should be the parents responsibility to force them to take a break, and the rest of us shouldn't have to suffer if they have an inability to do so.

Lmao it always cracks me up though, you can post anything on these forums, and people will disagree with you just for the sake of doing so. I think somehow it has become trendy, or "edgy" for people to disagree. I think people think it makes them look cool or something. You could make a thread on these forums titled "Babies with cancer is bad," and someone would surly post, "Actually it's not."

In any case, I got off subject. I hate, hate, hate, hate, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate reentry timers.

I agree we should replace it with a hour timer. Sounds good to me.

Lol I can't tell by reading this if you're:

A: Serious for some wild and crazy reason.
B: Saying you think we should be grateful that we don't have an hour wait. (That would be ludicrous)
C: Trying to be funny
D: Trolling
E: You agree with me, and are expressing your frustration with SE by making a facetious remark.
F: Dedededededede

[Jynx]

Actually there was a thread on this subject earlier and most people agreed the 15 minutes was great to let them be able to cool down, do their thing without holding the group back.

The cooldown between smashing your head into the wall repeating content is nice and I think a longer timer would be nice to encourage people to do a variaty of content if not give people a longer chance to get things in order before their next run. Then again there is that whole "I want it now I only play 3 hours and your wasting my precious time in the virtual world" crowd as well it's just a difference of opinions.

So apparantly my answer is either A, or D whatever suits your fancy.

[Felis]

Please get rid of it okay?

Just kidding I know you never will, but boy do I sure hate it. At least it isn't as bad as FFXI I guess...

+1
15 minute timer is bad. It should be 20 minutes, more time to eat bread and drink coffee between the raids ^^
Sometimes people aren't ready after the 15 minutes, especially smokers.

[Mijin]

+1
15 minute timer is bad. It should be 20 minutes, more time to eat bread and drink coffee between the raids ^^
Sometimes people aren't ready after the 15 minutes, especially smokers.

XD Idk what you're smoking that takes 20 minutes, but if you smoke you may as well do it inside anyway; it's not like you're going to stink any less if you do it in your house lol.

Actually there was a thread on this subject earlier and most people agreed the 15 minutes was great to let them be able to cool down, do their thing without holding the group back.

I'm sure there's probably been more than one thread on it.

I guess I don't really mind a cool down that much on endgame content considering people love to dilly dally anyway, but a 15 minute cool down on a dungeon that takes 15 minutes? lol...

[Yellow]

If there are no reentry timers.. then the drops have to have a lower drop rate.

I guess it depends on the content.. but I'd rather not have to spam it over and over and over..

No reentry timer + high drop rates = people will finish end game content in under a week and people will complain.

[HiirNoivl]

If someone gets home from work or something and only has four hours to play before they have to go to bed, we should definitely force them to spend half (or more) of their play time twiddling their thumbs.

You're assuming of course that people are quickly clearing the content. The majority will be raiiding for 2x the time of the wait.

But for the speed runners out there that want to play non-stop AV and CC can be rotated, or you can do CC or AV in 17 minutes, go kill Garuda and go back to CC with a small 5 min rest in between.

[Mijin]

If there are no reentry timers.. then the drops have to have a lower drop rate.

I guess it depends on the content.. but I'd rather not have to spam it over and over and over..

No reentry timer + high drop rates = people will finish end game content in under a week and people will complain.

The content already has low drop rates and you have to spam it as it is. Everyone in your LS is going to do AV/CC at least 21 times for every relic weapon, and if you're after specific Darklight items you're in for the long haul. I've done literally over 100 AV speed runs and there are still DL pieces from there I've never seen drop.